Forgive me, for I have sinnned.... (polymer guns aren't precise enough)

[elnino31]

Good for you. You have a good one. Now take the 3 different S&W weapons I have,and realize the wide variation in precision in each. I had hoped to get one as precise as yours, I did not. Now I have to deal with S&W warranty service to try to get one more precise.

Go buy 3 more yourself, and see how precise each one is.

How can you expect to compare a $1k gun to a $500 gun? No accuracy issues with mine. But I do understand that's not always the case.

And for what it's worth you can buy 3 kimbers and find 2 that don't feed.

All that being said, I'm a huge fan of 1911's. I love shooting both 1911's and my m&p . Comparing the 2 is a real stretch unless you have an equal amount of money invested.
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[madryan]

I don't own an M&P but if you open up a glock and check out how the trigger stuff interacts you can polish up the stuff that rubs and really make your glock shoot much nicer. It'll make the trigger, especially if you've got the lighter trigger stuff that comes with the G34 perform much better. Best part it's basically free.

[Magic_Salad0892]

My advice is to get a PPQ/HK/Glock or an M&P (with a fitted barrel) and learn to shoot a polymer gun (as they make a much more reliable carry/defensive gun).

Me, and I think many others on this board would also advocate flipping a few parts on a Glock. Extractor, and sights, mainly.

[kodiakpb]

There is something to be said about giving yourself enough time to get used to a new platform (ie trigger, ergo, etc). Often times bad habits are masked.

Here are some 4 round shot groups (WWB 115gr) standing unsupported from a FS M&P 9 with factory threaded barrel and APEX DCAEK (Mar 12 test fire date). I shoot my Glocks just as well with "." or "-" connector installed depending on which Generation I am shooting.

[Cincinnatus]

Me, and I think many others on this board would also advocate flipping a few parts on a Glock. Extractor, and sights, mainly.

And a Vickers extended Mag Release.

[StrikerFired]

Hey, whatever you shoot well... I wasn't any good with my 1911 platform pistol so I sold it. I am much better with my G17 and my ATEi worked over M&P's

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

I still believe the 1911 is by far the easiest pistol to shoot well outside of .22 target pistols. For years and years most of my practice was with DA/SA pistols like the SIG and HK USPs. Then I started fooling with 1911s which I had hated for years because of their heft and unreliability--then I got my hands on a reliable one. To this day I believe the same man who actually tries will shoot more accurately with a 1911 under pressure.

That being said, I carry a J-frame which may be the worst possible combination of trigger, weight, shape, etc for shooting because ultimately it is about having a gun with you more than absolute mechanical precision, power and/or capacity.

[Magic_Salad0892]

I still believe the 1911 is by far the easiest pistol to shoot well outside of .22 target pistols. For years and years most of my practice was with DA/SA pistols like the SIG and HK USPs. Then I started fooling with 1911s which I had hated for years because of their heft and unreliability--then I got my hands on a reliable one. To this day I believe the same man who actually tries will shoot more accurately with a 1911 under pressure.

That being said, I carry a J-frame which may be the worst possible combination of trigger, weight, shape, etc for shooting because ultimately it is about having a gun with you more than absolute mechanical precision, power and/or capacity.

I'm 99% in agreement with you. I personally do shoot a G19 better than a 1911 under time constraints, and awkward positions than I do a 1911, due to length of the gun, and recoil. (It could also be due to the trigger. I think I have more consistent cadence with a longer slightly heavier trigger.)

[Larry Vickers]

When you get a chance try a Walther PPQ - it has a great trigger for a polymer striker fired pistol and is very accurate

Add to that reliability and you have a gun that brings a lot to the table right out of the box

It might change your perspective on polymer handguns

[wetidlerjr]

When you get a chance try a Walther PPQ - it has a great trigger for a polymer striker fired pistol and is very accurate. Add to that reliability and you have a gun that brings a lot to the table right out of the box
It might change your perspective on polymer handguns

You will have to excuse me but I'm afraid I'm too old to change my perspective on polymer handguns. In July 1966 at Edson Range (MCB Camp Pendleton) the 1911 got my attention and I don't think it will lose it anytime soon. YMMV