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    Here's the thread in our forum that explains it, photo courtesy of Jon C https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=112484

    The BAD-CASS started life as a 3 way M16 selector, developed for one of the most well known, tradition rich firearms companies in the US, for its entry into the improved carbine trials.

    The BAD-ASS, due to the conventional way the levers are attached to the selector center, does not leave any room for the M16 auto sear.

    Since both our levers are detachable, we ran into this problem that a cast selector with its permanently attached left lever does not have, so we used the dovetail interface to create room for the auto sear cut on the center. This also serves the purpose of diminishing the role of the screw, so that in the event a user forgot to use thread locker on the screws and they fall out, the levers are not lost immediately, and actually remain usable for a time.

    The BAD-ASS, with its tried and true, and rather conventional lever attachment system, has worked very well for its owners. We almost never hear of screws backing out, there was one known case where this did take place, the user forgot to apply thread locker on the screw. Also we do not know how he torqued the screws (the torque value is 5 inch / Lb).

    It's been our experience, and that of many users, that even without thread locker, the screws have stayed put. We recommend always use a tiny drop of thread locker on the screws, this applies to many accessories on a firearm
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    Roger,
    Thanks for the link and info! I hadn't found that thread...

    Just placed my order!

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    Re: weakening the spring so the detent would make less noise, it should work. We provide a new detent spring to use as spacers (cut off coils) to boost spring tension for grips that have deeper spring holes. So you can cut off couple of coils to quiet down the noise, but detent engagement will be less positive as a result too.
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    Ambi Safety for Custom Build

    Quote Originally Posted by sva01 View Post
    Roger,
    Thanks for the link and info! I hadn't found that thread...

    Just placed my order!
    You'll be very happy with your choice.

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    Ambi safety, righties?

    Any right-handed shooters running an ambi safety? If so, why?

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    I have BAD short throw safeties on most of my guns with the stubby levers.

    It makes it a lot easier for manipulations when shooting reaction/weak side. It also makes it easier when shooting strong side (right hand) for me at least. I use my right trigger finger's knuckle to flip safety back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TACAV View Post
    I have BAD short throw safeties on most of my guns with the stubby levers.

    It makes it a lot easier for manipulations when shooting reaction/weak side. It also makes it easier when shooting strong side (right hand) for me at least. I use my right trigger finger's knuckle to flip safety back on.
    The above explains it all. s

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    Yes I do, here's why



    Shown is the excellent Badger Ordanance ambi safety.


    When walking the hills in the desert the rifle (SBR in this case) is slung across the front of my chest. The "normal" position of the safety is rubbing against everything, and could move to the fire position and then the trigger could in the most unusual circumstance catch on something else causing a ND... Secondly, the general ease for sporting purposes is comfortable to me while also giving instantly indentifiable feedback as to the rifles readiness condition.

    However, do to training I would not chose to use this sort of build for combat operations.
    Last edited by 308sako; 02-11-13 at 20:21. Reason: Add Badger comment

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    Thanks all. You answered my question perfectly. I've been thinking to add one, but never had a problem with the stock selector. I didn't want to go all "tacticool" without a valid function! There's enough of that out there as it is!

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    We learned in classes to shoot from our weak side. Those without ambi selectors had to struggle a little, because most people shoot from their weak side less than 5% of the time, so we're all rusty unless we practice shooting from both sides often.

    You never know when your strong arm will be disabled, or doing something else that precludes it from holding the weapon.

    Shooting from behind barricade will require you to shoot from your weak side to have as little exposure as possible.

    Sure you can make do, as folks have for decades. With issued weapons and in departments or units that do not allow users to make such changes, making do is a fact of life.

    European weapon systems have long had ambidextrous selectors, and US weapon systems have been catching up, that too is true.

    A right hand biased system isn't necessary unfriendly to left hand users, but pretty much it ignores them, because they can always make do. Why make the 13% to 30% (polls vary) of the users less proficient? I can't think of a good reason either.

    Human interface controls that make the weapon more versatile, while imposing minimal discomfort, and presenting no drawbacks so huge as to outweigh the benefits, to me are worth the asking price.

    Ambidextrous charging handle, safety, bolt release, etc., all fit the bill
    Roger Wang
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