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Thread: 1-4x CQB Functionality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhivago99 View Post
    After doing some more thinking and research, and considering I intend to mount this optic on a 7.62 MWS which is capable of and deserving to be employed in longer range shooting, I am now leaning towards waiting for the SWFA 1-6x.

    Am I incorrect in thinking that this would be better suited or is a 6x vs 4x max power kind of a moot point?
    Depends on your needs and expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Depends on your needs and expectations.

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    Target shooting, mostly under 500 yards. Out farther when the opportunity presents itself. My experience with magnified optics is very limited in practice.

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    For your application, the Leupold would do well. It's close enough to 1x for your use. Your rifle doesn't sound like it would be used for CQB anyway.

    In all honesty, I don't know I'd be looking at a 1-4 for your rifle anyway. Here is a good thread with some discussions on various setups folks are using. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=80781

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    Truth be told, I don't know exactly what I want. I was thinking that a 1-4 or 1-6 would serve as a good target optic while still being usable as an all purpose defense optic in SHTF scenario. Not having much trigger time on the MWS yet, I don't know if I'd reach for that or my AK.

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    Burris MTAC is a contender to those scopes also
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhivago99 View Post
    Target shooting, mostly under 500 yards. Out farther when the opportunity presents itself. My experience with magnified optics is very limited in practice.
    At what targets, specifically?
    For example, iron sights are fine for 40" wide black circles on a white background at 600 meters. Trying to hit a partially obscured figure at the same range takes a bit more.
    Reticle composition makes a big difference if you need to rapidly apply hold over instead of just dialing in known dope.
    The more descriptive and realisitc you can be in your expectations the better the advice will be.
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    What specific target? I don't know to be honest.

    As far as reticle, I know I want something with hash marks or dots of some sort. I want to be able to do hold over at known distances. That's what attracted me to the Leupold and SWFA. I looked at the nightforce 1-4 scopes and didn't care for the reticles.

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    Just breaking in my Sig 716 and came to the same opinion. A 1-6 would be my best option.

    Alittle extra magnification to fully realize the capabilities of the round. IMO.

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    The burris xtr is a great option in this category. They have 1-4, and 1-6. The 1-4 used to have the 556 reticle, and the 1-6 had the 762 reticle. Last time i looked the 762 reticle was available on both. It might have been a typo.

    The one i had came with a printed out conversion. You could use the 556 reticle on a 762, and the 762 reticle on a 556. It only included some popular factory/mil loads, but the ballistic reticle is pretty simple to make work with any caliber. In the manual it shows exactly how many inches each stadia line is from the main aiming dot.

    I just got a fullfield e1 with a similar reticle the only difference is it has dots for a ten mile an hour wind at that distance. If you Google the ballistic plex reticle you can see the difference between the 556, and 762 version.

    They should fit exactly what you need. The glass is very clear. I was very surprised with the quality. I have not seen the ss 1-4 or 1-6. They probably have better glass from what i hear about them. The burris is a true 1x, and the xtr has a donut/ dot style reticle with the stadia lines. The illumination is daylight usable.

    It is just an option, and seems to fill all your requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    The burris xtr is a great option in this category. They have 1-4, and 1-6. The 1-4 used to have the 556 reticle, and the 1-6 had the 762 reticle. Last time i looked the 762 reticle was available on both. It might have been a typo.
    Are you sure it is a 1-6?
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