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    Quote Originally Posted by tkglazie View Post
    No way- I look at the opposite way. As hard as I looked for those parts to finish my lower, it would be silly for me to sit on a set of controls that someone else might need. Part hoarding is making it impossible for us to complete builds!
    So list it on the ee for what you paid for it. Returning a product you no longer WANT, a part with no defect or any misrepresentation on their website, hinders the next guy from receiving their order in a timely manner. Don't even tell me it has anything to do with parts hoarding.
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    I dont agree at all. Nor do I have to. Midway and I have a pretty good relationship. We dont need any help.

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    I keeping them after all. I am assembling another emergency lpk in case I luck into another lower.
    Last edited by tkglazie; 01-13-13 at 15:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkglazie View Post
    Let's stay on topic- the point of this thread is to learn what to look out for when building your first AR, not argue pin installation techniques

    There is a right way, some alternative ways, and wrong ways. We are all free to choose whichever method we like.

    Fair?
    I have to disagree with you. I believe this has everything to do with the topic of discussion. Marring or even destroying your lower because a person refuses to use the proper tools is the biggest mistake you can make when putting an AR together.

    It comes down to wether or not a person wants to build a quality product or just be another hack on the Internet. Use the proper tools the first time and you have a greater chance of success the first time.

    It seem pretty logical, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigSlave View Post
    I have to disagree with you. I believe this has everything to do with the topic of discussion. Marring or even destroying your lower because a person refuses to use the proper tools is the biggest mistake you can make when putting an AR together.

    It comes down to wether or not a person wants to build a quality product or just be another hack on the Internet. Use the proper tools the first time and you have a greater chance of success the first time.

    It seem pretty logical, no?
    It does, and your logic is sound- but, if someone has trouble tapping a roll pin into a trigger guard ear, using the proper tools or not, and chooses to use an alternate method to do it (like a c-clamp), I am not going to hold that against him. Especially if the method is safe, albeit a bit slower. An armorer might never use a c-clamp, but we are not all armorers.

    I have the right tools, and will try to do it right, but if I dont feel like I am succeeding and I think an alternate method will preserve my precious, precious lower, believe you me, I will be giving the c-clamp tip a try, or taking the lower to a gunsmith.
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    I have assembled 5 lowers and 3 uppers for friends and IMO they are so simple to assemble that if you have a problem other than a faulty machined part you shouldn't be attempting the project. They are that simple. There is lots of info here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveS View Post
    I have assembled 5 lowers and 3 uppers for friends and IMO they are so simple to assemble that if you have a problem other than a faulty machined part you shouldn't be attempting the project. They are that simple. There is lots of info here.
    I have to agree with this. I just assembled my first lower and it is very simple. After watching a few youtube videos and buying a few tools I had mine assembled in 30 minutes.

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    Excellent. As soon as my damn KNS lower pins get here I will find out!

    update- not all the parts have arrived but I did get the ALG trigger, mag release and moe trigger guard installed. The roll pin starters did what they are supposed to do and got the trigger guard pin about half way in nicely. The roll pin driver took it from there and easily tapped the pin into the (supported) lower ear. No need for a c-clamp in this case. Very smooth process actually.

    2 thumbs up for the ALG QMS trigger by the way. As new as it is, it is already breaking very cleanly (a little bit of creep, but no gritty feeling) and at a consistent 6#. What more could I ask for at only $45. I tried it with KNS pins and it had way more creep.
    Last edited by tkglazie; 01-21-13 at 19:55.

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    She is a shooter at last. Ran off the only 20 rounds of ammo I had on hand this morning (less than ideal 50 grain AE through a 1:7 twist) and it worked great. Very very smooth, soft shooting gun. One adjustment in each direct got me close to zero, enough for now anyway. Accuracy is excellent, except when I get in the way as you can see by the flyer.

    Thanks for all the tips everyone.




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