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    Quote Originally Posted by Insta-Gator View Post
    Opinion is one thing. Technical, documented evidence to support stated opinion is another.
    Well we have plenty of documentation on this site and others of Aimpoints having much better battery life, along with holding up to abuse and rough use.

    Here are some thoughts on the HD7:
    https://www.m4carbine.net/showpost.p...4&postcount=19

    Quote Originally Posted by Insta-Gator View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqJnIGQ7h4

    Pretty solid review of the HD7 on YouTube
    Can't say I've ever seen a Military Arms review that wasn't glowing. Maybe only awesome products get reviewed?
    Last edited by sammage; 01-09-13 at 00:25.
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Vickers View Post
    It is a cheap Airsoft quality Eotech half ass knockoff- I just had a student with one in a basic class about a month ago and it laid down faster than a cheap hooker

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    Objective product evaluations

    Thanks, sammage. At least you referenced another post of someone (Grizzly16) who had actually used one. Of course he found issue with other sights (Vortex, Aimpoint) as well.

    I guess what I'd like to see from myself and others on product reviews is, (1) first hand or documented use/knowledge of a product, (2) less opinion and more objective analysis, (3) product positioning taken into consideration - is this for the competitive tack driver or is it for the weekend plinker, (4) relative price point; don't compare a $250 product to a $1,250 product, or at least take that into consideration.
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    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” -- Thomas Jefferson

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    Good luck with the optic. The only way to see whats for you is to buy it and shoot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksosay View Post
    I went based on the mission statement of the company (US based and owned), user reviews from reputable sources, and price point.

    Since my primary use will be 2 and 3 gun matches I couldn't justify the price of the more proven and popular offerings. Also, I have a gut feeling this optic and the Lucid company as a whole is/are a sleeper in the industry.
    Is the lucid h7 made in China? They say most are made in China and "some products" are made in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Insta-Gator View Post
    Thanks, sammage. At least you referenced another post of someone (Grizzly16) who had actually used one. Of course he found issue with other sights (Vortex, Aimpoint) as well.

    I guess what I'd like to see from myself and others on product reviews is, (1) first hand or documented use/knowledge of a product, (2) less opinion and more objective analysis, (3) product positioning taken into consideration - is this for the competitive tack driver or is it for the weekend plinker, (4) relative price point; don't compare a $250 product to a $1,250 product, or at least take that into consideration.
    I've got ZERO experience with the Lucid. SomeOtherGuy quoted my question with his replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aguila327 View Post
    Good luck with the optic. The only way to see whats for you is to buy it and shoot it.
    Agree completely.......thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly16 View Post
    Is the lucid h7 made in China? They say most are made in China and "some products" are made in the US.
    The HD7 is made in China. However the design to my knowledge is US based and QA ends in the US.

    I try very hard to not buy overseas if possible but I wanted a decent red dot for 2 and 3 gun matches, not for combat and not for posing. I could have afforded an ACOG or other high end holo sight but that would have been "pearls on a pig". So I was fortunate to strike a compromise and buy from a US owned and operated company that has the product I wanted manufactured in a low cost country.

    That being said to those folks espousing the the pedigree of pricer optics/holosights let's not even get into a discussion at the component level. Because if you don't go to Taiwan or China.......I dare say 99% of all electronic devices don't even come to market.

    From the Lucid FAQ:
    (Q) Where are the LUCID products made?

    (A) All of our products are designed and engineered right here in Riverton Wyoming, in efforts to keep some of them at a price point that is acceptable by the market we have them assembled in China. We are also proud to have some items made in the U.S.A.


    http://mylucidgear.com/faq.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksosay View Post
    Agree completely.......thanks.



    The HD7 is made in China. However the design to my knowledge is US based and QA ends in the US.

    I try very hard to not buy overseas if possible but I wanted a decent red dot for 2 and 3 gun matches, not for combat and not for posing. I could have afforded an ACOG or other high end holo sight but that would have been "pearls on a pig". So I was fortunate to strike a compromise and buy from a US owned and operated company that has the product I wanted manufactured in a low cost country.

    That being said to those folks espousing the the pedigree of pricer optics/holosights let's not even get into a discussion at the component level. Because if you don't go to Taiwan or China.......I dare say 99% of all electronic devices don't even come to market.

    From the Lucid FAQ:
    (Q) Where are the LUCID products made?

    (A) All of our products are designed and engineered right here in Riverton Wyoming, in efforts to keep some of them at a price point that is acceptable by the market we have them assembled in China. We are also proud to have some items made in the U.S.A.


    http://mylucidgear.com/faq.php
    Back to F2S' question and given that you didn't want to spend aimpoint/acog/eotech money. What about this lucid is better than say the offerings from primary arms and vortex that are also made in china, have comparable warranties, mission statements and lower prices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly16 View Post
    Back to F2S' question and given that you didn't want to spend aimpoint/acog/eotech money. What about this lucid is better than say the offerings from primary arms and vortex that are also made in china, have comparable warranties, mission statements and lower prices?
    The P.A. unit I was able to handle at a local show and it felt fit for "airsoft" level use and I can say for sure the optical quality of the Lucid is superior.

    I've lurked over the vortex for a few years but user reviews were all over the place for reliability, fit and finish.

    The Lucid presented best (for me) from the vendor and from user reviews. Eventually I needed/wanted to commit to something. I figured the US based company and a newcomer to the industry would get my coin. From here I must hope for the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksosay View Post
    The P.A. unit I was able to handle at a local show and it felt fit for "airsoft" level use and I can say for sure the optical quality of the Lucid is superior.

    I've lurked over the vortex for a few years but user reviews were all over the place for reliability, fit and finish.

    The Lucid presented best (for me) from the vendor and from user reviews. Eventually I needed/wanted to commit to something. I figured the US based company and a newcomer to the industry would get my coin. From here I must hope for the best.
    So, have you had a chance to take it to the range? What's you observations?
    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” -- Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insta-Gator View Post
    So, have you had a chance to take it to the range? What's you observations?
    Not so far.......work obligations and weather keep me from the range. Rest assured I'll post up my impressions asap.

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