Page 5 of 28 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 277

Thread: new BCG company....

  1. #41
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    27,214
    Feedback Score
    14 (100%)
    DAMN! I just bought 50 gallons of NANO LUBE!
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

  2. #42
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    7,469
    Feedback Score
    12 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by crossgun
    I can tell you that these MIL SPEC Black Nitride bolts and bolt carriers do have many top tier makers including "THE" guys shaking their head in awe.
    Who specifically?

  3. #43
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    GA
    Posts
    3,704
    Feedback Score
    43 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by crossgun View Post
    I just want to take a second to clarify a few things. First I am just again amazed by how you guys continue to react to things while never ever having taken the time to MAKE anything in your life. While I have been in product design, development, engineering and manufacturing all my life I’m just obviously clueless to knowledge and facts when it comes to you so called sit at home experts. What is it again you have done or contributed other than owning and polishing you so called top tier kool-aid safe queen favorite firearm?

    First the so called finish, Black Nitride is not some fancy jizz coating! It’s a metal heat treating process. Nothing is "added" to the surface. The Black Nitride actually is a treatment that makes it part of the component just like it does with your favorite M&P slide or barrel. This finish is used by many firearms manufacture like Smith and Wesson, LWRC, Barrett and the list goes on and on. Many well know custom gun makers use this finish as well and H&M Metal is the home of this process and the place the industry uses.

    The H&M McMillen family is no way associated with the great McMillan stock making family.

    RCA, Rubber City Armory is not a "joint venture" with Blacknitride.com or Chris Cerino Training Group as originally posted by the OP. RCA is a 100% standalone company owned and operated by the McMillen Company.

    These are not some shitty bolts and bolt carriers with some magic fair dust sprinkled on them. What you have is a MIL SPEC bolt and bolt carrier. MPI tested with the correct MIL SPEC steel being used. I am not going to explain to you what MIL SPEC is but if you know anything its related to a spec, prints and tolerances all developed by a well know manufacture many years ago and these components with the exception of the finish meet and or exceed all those specs and criteria. What’s underneath is as good as it gets.

    I don’t have a horse in the race other than to share accurate information. I have used H&M Metal to process parts for me and business I have been associated with for more than five years. I have also had them run numerous barrels, actions, slides, mags, bolts and bolt carriers for me over the years and given the option this is without a doubt my go to metal treatment finish. I will never buy or build a precision rifle again if I can’t get it Black Nitrided that’s how good it is.

    I also have knowledge and experience with the manufacture of the bolts and bolt carriers and can tell you that they are a first class manufacturing facility with some of the best equipment in the business.

    Like Grant pointed out, I would never run anything "dry" on purpose but you can if you wish. I can tell you that these MIL SPEC Black Nitride bolts and bolt carriers do have many top tier makers including "THE" guys shaking their head in awe.

    I have myself run Black Nitride bolts and bolt carriers from many makers including Colt and BCM with NO issues at many schools again for what that is worth.

    Price is the price on these complete BCGs but from where I am standing you get a 30-Day NO bullshit or hassle, try before you buy test period and if you don’t like it will get a full refund if you send it back. On top of that you also get a 20 year warranty. What am I missing and who else things so much of their stuff they do that?

    Just wanted to shed a little light on the subject and some facts.
    This is the kind of information we need. The reason this thread is full of backlash is because the website focuses on the coating and makes no mention of the specs / quality of the actual BCG. If they were more clear about what you're getting for your money, the reception here would be different. Just to be clear, are you stating that this is a fully mil spec BCG with a black nitride coating, similar to the BCM ion bond groups? If that's the case, the price isn't bad.

    During this current panic, guys are paying more for a BCG and many don't care who made it. They just want one, ANY one. So a nitride Mil spec BCG at $250 isn't a bad deal. RCA just needs to clarify WHAT they are selling.

  4. #44
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    179
    Feedback Score
    5 (100%)
    I, like you was a bit warry seeing as I never heard of them before. I decided to give them a shot for the simple fact these are the only BCGs I could find in stock at any point. Will I run them lubed...of course. Hopefully the coating will aid in cleaning. I ordered two for some new builds i'm planning.

    I'm running a standard BCM carrier in my current AR so I didn't really want to stray from BCM, DD, Spikes, but figured at this point it couldn't hurt. My questions were quickly answered on Facebook as well.

    Ordered yesteday and got shipping notice already. I'll give some more first impressions when I get them in.
    Last edited by jamesbern; 01-09-13 at 09:50.

  5. #45
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    54
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by crossgun View Post
    I just want to take a second to clarify a few things. First I am just again amazed by how you guys continue to react to things while never ever having taken the time to MAKE anything in your life. While I have been in product design, development, engineering and manufacturing all my life I’m just obviously clueless to knowledge and facts when it comes to you so called sit at home experts. What is it again you have done or contributed other than owning and polishing you so called top tier kool-aid safe queen favorite firearm?
    Calling a bunch of people who you don't know a bunch of "sit at home experts" is a sure way to bring credibility to your posts.
    Last edited by Famine; 01-09-13 at 09:58.

  6. #46
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    144
    Feedback Score
    0
    I talked to a guy named Shea at RCA and he told me that they are full mil-spec with mpi bolts. He stated the only diff with these was the fact that they have been nitrided. He told me if I had any problems that I could return it and that they are running out of stock. He would have more in a few weeks. I supposedly bought one of the last 5 he had? Don't know how true that is but it is what he told me. I will reserve my opinion until I get a chance to use the bcg.

  7. #47
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Land of illegals, and unsecure borders
    Posts
    159
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    This is the kind of information we need. The reason this thread is full of backlash is because the website focuses on the coating and makes no mention of the specs / quality of the actual BCG. If they were more clear about what you're getting for your money, the reception here would be different. Just to be clear, are you stating that this is a fully mil spec BCG with a black nitride coating, similar to the BCM ion bond groups? If that's the case, the price isn't bad.

    During this current panic, guys are paying more for a BCG and many don't care who made it. They just want one, ANY one. So a nitride Mil spec BCG at $250 isn't a bad deal. RCA just needs to clarify WHAT they are selling.
    I also think when the "new and improved" comes out, over a method that has been proven over and over, it is hard for some of us to accept this stuff. History shows this as well, how long has the old argument been going on between calibers?

  8. #48
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Alaska
    Posts
    3,523
    Feedback Score
    3 (100%)
    RCA, Rubber City Armory is not a "joint venture" with Blacknitride.com or Chris Cerino Training Group as originally posted by the OP. RCA is a 100% standalone company owned and operated by the McMillen Company.
    Actually, they are according to their own Facebook page..

    About
    Rubber City Armory is a subsidiary of parent company H&M Metal Processing.
    Mission
    Rubber City Armory strives to meet the demands of the firearms industry by providing products with fit, finish and reliability that exceed market demands. Rubber City Armory provides customer service second to none.
    Company Overview
    Rubber City Armory is owned by the McMillen Companies and is formed under parent company H&M Metals. Local lawman and nationally known competitor and trainer, Chris Cerino has been named the Director of Rubber City Armory.
    Description
    Rubber City Armory provides high quality, critical weapon system parts. Made to strict tolerances and standards, Rubber City Armory uses world renown H&M Metals Black Nitride™ and new Black Nitride Plus™ with Molecular Realignment Technology to create parts that are stronger, last longer and require less maintenance and care than ordinary surface treated metals.
    Now, that doesn't make the process bad. In fact, it adds credibility to their product. If they want to make their advertising better they would heed some of the complaints around here. First and foremost a BCG should be advertised as a properly tested military grade BCG. They should list the fact it's made out of Carpenter steel also. THEN they should list the fact as to what nitriding is used for already in the firearms industry. Finally they should list the benefits of nitriding. Had they done that, rather than saying "no lube needed", this conversation would have been much shorter. In fact, if they had used the words in their own Facebook description, they'd be further ahead.
    Last edited by AKDoug; 01-09-13 at 11:51.

  9. #49
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Eastern Missouri
    Posts
    24
    Feedback Score
    0
    It it's available at a decent pricepoint (somewhere below $300 would be nice) I'd be tempted to buy it. Won't keep me from FireClean it... lol
    ___________________________________
    Ask me about The Liberal Gun Club

  10. #50
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Northeast MS.
    Posts
    460
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by munch520 View Post
    All I know is (after reading Duane's post) I want some KFC



    We have to "make something" before we're allowed to form an opinion? [/B]
    .
    My thoughts exactly. I don't have to know how to make a car to know that a Yugo is a piece of crap.

Page 5 of 28 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •