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    Quote Originally Posted by Smash View Post
    So I just read the large capacity magazine portion.

    "A person may possess a large-capacity magazine if he or she owns the large-capacity magazine on the effective date of the bill and maintains continuous possession of the large-capacity magazine."

    Is this a "as long as you have a gun that was created before the date of the ban they can't really prove you didn't have it" type of ban?
    It's vague, poorly written and impossible to enforce.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by francis View Post
    20 years ago, who would believe Colorado may become an AWB state? Quite the opposite, I would have thought?
    Recently moved to Illinois from CO

    Would never have thought the move would make my weapons safer

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    Colorado AWB Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by SPQR476 View Post
    In addition to the national battle to protect our firearms rights, many states are currently engaged in their own fights. Here in CO, a state with a strong heritage of firearm and other personal freedoms, we are facing some extreme challenges to firearms rights. We have been engaged in dialogue with legislators here presenting our arguments to stop legislation from even being introduced, but our efforts did not deter those of extreme views.

    After the NRAs visit last week, several anti-freedom bills were introduced by CO legislators, and a very aggressive timeline has been set forth in moving these bills forward.

    The bills include:
    HB 1229, Background checks for Gun Transfers--a measure to prohibit private sales between CO residents, and instead require a full FFL transfer, including a 4473.

    HB 1228, Payment for Background Checks for Gun Transfers-- a measure that would require CO residents to pay for the back logged state-run CBI system (currently taking 3 times the federally mandated wait time for checks to occur) instead of using the free federal NICS checks.

    And finally, HB 1224, Prohibiting Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines--a measure that bans the possession, sale, or transfer of magazines over 10 round capacity. The measures and stipulations in this bill would deprive CO residents of the value of their private property by prohibiting the sale or transfer of all magazines over 10 rounds. This bill would also prohibit manufacture of magazines greater than 10 rounds for commercial sale out of the state, and place restrictions on the manufacture of military and law enforcement magazines that would cripple production.

    We'd like to ask all CO residents to please contact your state legislators and the members of the Judiciary Committee and urge them to kill these measures in committee, and to vote NO if they reach the floor.

    We also ask you to show your support for the 2nd Amendment at the Capitol on Tuesday, Feb 12, for the magazine ban committee hearing and Wednesday,
    Feb 13, for the hearing on the other measures.

    Due to the highly restrictive language in HB 1224, if passed, and we remained here, this measure would require us to cease PMAG production on July 1, 2013.

    In short, Magpul would be unable to remain in business as a CO company, and the over 200 jobs for direct employees and nearly 700 jobs at our subcontractors and suppliers would pick up and leave CO. Due to the structure of our operations, this would be entirely possible, hopefully without significant disruption to production.

    The legislators drafting these measures do so in spite of the fact that nothing they are proposing will do anything to even marginally improve public safety in CO, and in fact, will leave law-abiding CO residents less able to defend themselves, strip away rights and property from residents who have done nothing wrong, and send nearly 1000 jobs and millions in tax revenue out of the state.

    We like CO, we want to continue to operate in CO, but most of all, we want CO to remain FREE.

    Please help us in this fight, and let your voices be heard!

    We have included the contact information for the House Judiciary committee for your convenience:

    House Judiciary Committee
    Rep. Daniel Kagan, Chair: 303-866-2921, repkagan@gmail.com
    Rep. Pete Lee, Vice Chair: 303-866-2932, pete.lee.house@state.co.us
    Rep. John Buckner: 303-866-2944, john.buckner.house@state.co.us
    Rep. Lois Court: 303-866-2967, lois.court.house@state.co.us
    Rep. Bob Gardner, 303-866-2191, bob.gardner.house@state.co.us
    Rep. Polly Lawrence, 303-866-2935, polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us
    Rep. Mike McLachlan, 303-866-2914, mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us
    Rep. Rep Carole Murray, 303-866-2948, murrayhouse45@gmail.com
    Rep. Brittany Pettersen, 303-866-2939, brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us
    Rep. Joseph Salazar, 303-866-2918, joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us
    Rep. Jared Wright, 303-866-2583, jared.wright.house@state.co.us
    Well put. I'm sorry to hear of such a beautiful state going through such troubles. I forwarded this to our CEO, who lives in Boulder and will definitely get in touch with state officials.

    On another note, Ohio would welcome Magpul!

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    Minnesota is facing the same onerous legislation. Unlike Colorado and Magpul, however, it wouldn't affect anyone on M4C since the most prominent mfgr of note in Minnesota is DPMS and their 115 employees.

    Here's Adam Ballard's testimony before the legislative committee.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twdAa...ature=youtu.be

    I apologize for going off-topic, but the impending failure of Federal legislation has taken this battle to the states and appears to be exacerbated by the Obama win and nationwide disarray in the Republican ranks. These states with Democrat Governors and legislatures are going to be susceptible to this kind of legislation.


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    Colorado AWB Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    Colorado and Magpul, however, it wouldn't affect anyone on M4C since the most prominent mfgr of note in Minnesota is DPMS.
    Haha - it's gonna be hard to explain to everyone at my gate at the airport why I just laughed like a crazy person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by francis View Post
    20 years ago, who would believe Colorado may become an AWB state? Quite the opposite, I would have thought?
    That what happens when people from Cali move in...
    For God and the soldier we adore, In time of danger, not before! The danger passed, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted." - Rudyard Kipling

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    Exclamation BRING THE FIGHT TO THEM!

    I posted this in the GD Magpul/Colorado/AWB thread and wanted it here as well:

    This legislation is complete unconstitutional BS and they are trying to ram it home quickly before opposition can be heard/voiced. There are enough idiots in this state right now to get this passed if don't get in the game and play to win- RIGHT NOW!

    The fight is not over, the pro-2A crowd is just waking up...

    That being said, I am extremely worried about the pending legislation and its consequences.

    It's time to organize our community like the Anti-2A dicks have theirs and make our collective voices louder than theirs could ever be.


    In the Beer! thread, member Rancid Sumo suggested Colorado M4C members meet up at a brewery for some beers. I would like to second this notion and get the ball rolling with organizing a meeting of all M4C Colorado members so we can exchange contact info, get our butts organized and start working together to fight this.

    We need to get a plan going and join with other pro 2A organizations and people in Colorado and kill this ****ing bullshit!

    PM me if you are interested or feel free to email me directly:
    THCDDM4@gmail.com

    Please let me know your general location, best way to contact you and availability so I can find a central location and time that works best for everyone.

    Any suggestions or help is much appreciated!

    Mods- If this is in violation of M4C rules please let me know and I will remove or relocate accordingly...

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    Posting this for another member (Who cannot post in GD, but I am posting here as well)

    "As of now, I'm encouraging anyone, regardless of their state of residence, to email these people and let them know they oppose these bills. My thought is that they don't have to be a resident here to disagree with them, and right now, the more the better. I put some instructions for some folks at the bottom of this email list. Please use freely as you'd like:

    john.buckner.house@state.co.us, perrybuck49@gmail.com, kathleen.conti.house@state.co.us, don.coram.house@state.co.us, lois.court.house@state.co.us, brian@briandelgrosso.com, tim.dore.house@state.co.us, crisanta.duran.house@state.co.us, justin.everett.house@state.co.us, thomas.exum.house@state.co.us, mferrandino@yahoo.com, rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us, randyfischer@frii.com, mike.foote.house@state.co.us, leroy.garcia.house@state.co.us, bob.gardner.house@state.co.us, cheri.gerou@gmail.com, joann.ginal.house@state.co.us, millie.hamner.house@state.co.us, chris.holbert.house@state.co.us, chris.holbert.house@state.co.us, dl.hullinghorst.house@state.co.us, rephumphrey48@yahoo.com, janak.joshi.house@state.co.us, repkagan@gmail.com, reptracy29@gmail.com, jeanne.labuda.house@state.co.us, lois.landgraf.house@state.co.us, polly.lawrence.house@state.co.us, steve.lebsock.house@state.co.us, pete.lee.house@state.co.us, claire.levy.house@state.co.us, jenise.may.house@state.co.us, beth.mccann.house@state.co.us, mike.mclachlan.house@state.co.us, jovan.melton.house@state.co.us, diane.mitschbush.house@state.co.us, dominick.moreno.house@state.co.us, murrayhouse45@gmail.com, clarice.navarro.house@state.co.us, dan.nordberg.house@state.co.us, dan.pabon.house@state.co.us, cherylin.peniston.house@state.co.us, brittany.pettersen.house@state.co.us, dianne.primavera.house@state.co.us, kpriola@gmail.com, bob.rankin.house@state.co.us, paul.rosenthal.house@state.co.us, su.ryden.house@state.co.us, lori.saine.house@state.co.us, joseph.salazar.house@state.co.us, sue.schafer.house@state.co.us, ray.scott.house@state.co.us, jonathan.singer.house@state.co.us, jerry@repsonnenberg.com, amy.stephens.house@state.co.us, spencer.swalm.house@state.co.us, libby.szabo.house@state.co.us, max@maxtyler.us, edvigil1@gmail.com, mark.waller.house@state.co.us, angela.williams.house@state.co.us, james.wilson.house@state.co.us, jared.wright.house@state.co.us, dave.young.house@state.co.us


    You can email them several times if you'd like, or even every hour.

    Quick tip: keep the email as short as possible. Put something like "I oppose gun control bills HB-1224, HB-1226, HB-1228, and HB-1229" in the subject line and something similar in the email body. "

    Thanks!

    KEEP FIGHTING!
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    http://www.coloradochannel.net/node/1620

    Watch the house of reps live if you cannot maek it to the Capital building in Denver.

    They are discussing and going to vote on HB 1224, 1226, 1228 & 1229 today.

    Write your reps, show up to the capital!
    We interrupt this programme to bring you an important news bulletin: the suspect in the Happy Times All-Girl Glee Club slaying has fled the scene and has managed to elude the police. He is armed and dangerous, and has been spotted in the West Side area, armed with a meat cleaver in one hand and his genitals in the other...

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