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Thread: Daniel Defense ISR Integrally Suppressed Rifle

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    Quote Originally Posted by avengd7x View Post
    There isn't much rail estate on a 9" blackout
    Agree, 12 is a big diff over a 7,8" handguard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaseN View Post
    I like the idea of 1 stamp vs 2, not so much for the $200 savings but more for 1 part on NFA vs 2.
    You send in the paperwork together and wait the same amount of time anyway really. But AFAIK there are non-SBR states if you are not LE employed so then it certainly would matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoulderthinggoesup View Post
    Pretty rifle, but I can't imagine paying that kind of money for it.... You could weld and tap a ranger 2 on a DD for less money POST stamp if you need to beat the SBR game.......
    I think if you want to knock price you compare apples to apples. I remember looking at the BCM Jack thread and people were posting the retail prices to build it instead. I suppose their motivation was to show how "overpriced" it was. Instead they were screwing up the actual prices of the components and incorrectly assuming you could actually acquire the BCM lower and BCG and other parts needed to have a gun.

    I only say this because 1. would you be able to clean the baffle stack like DD says you can on theirs? 2. Would the suppressor integrate properly with a 12" DD MFR to fit under and allow the same 16.1 OAL? 3. How well would a, IIRC, 1/2-28 can thread onto a 300BLK barrel? and do you foresee any problems from using .308 projectiles through it???

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    Ditto folks living in the great socialist state of Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by sapper36 View Post
    It's a great idea for people living in states such as Michigan. We can have suppresors but not SBR's. It's stupid I know but if they had one in 556 I would allready being buying it.

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    I may be an idiot, which I am often called, so bare with me. But isn't an integrelly surpressed rifle a rifle with the barrel being the surpressor? This just sounds like a sbr with a welded surpressor. Isn't that something different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    I may be an idiot, which I am often called, so bare with me. But isn't an integrelly surpressed rifle a rifle with the barrel being the surpressor? This just sounds like a sbr with a welded surpressor. Isn't that something different?
    It looks to me that the integral component here would be the gas block attachment. With a pistol length gas system, and a 10.3" barrel, the suppressor would enclose a good portion of the barrel back to the gas block. I think the OAL of the suppressor may have been misstated in the article when referring to the additional length of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    I may be an idiot, which I am often called, so bare with me. But isn't an integrelly surpressed rifle a rifle with the barrel being the surpressor? This just sounds like a sbr with a welded surpressor. Isn't that something different?
    Yes and no. Integral simply means the suppressor is permanently affixed to the barrel. That makes it a one stamp affair instead of two. Many integrally suppressed guns gave bleed ports drilled into the barrel to keep the bullet subsonic. That wouldn't be necessary on a 300BLK. The supersonic rounds would still be supersonic and the subs don't require bleed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eodinert View Post
    I'm in the 'I don't get it' camp. I think they're forgetting who their demographic is.

    The person that pays $3400 for this rifle with one stamp is not going to say 'Yeah, that last $200 is really over the top'.

    Cool rifle, though.
    There are some states that allow suppressors but not SBR's. I live in such a state, MI. That combination isn't however common so I can see where you are coming from regardless.

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    .300BLK rounds are not cheap compared to 5.56 and not so readily available (meaning, if there was not a crack-head run on-guns stupidity like right now). Even if you can easily afford this rifle, your stomach will be turning when you run into the ammo availability issue, especially if you plan on shooting at least 200+ rounds per month.

    I have a friend who opted for .300BLK and he either scrounges to find decent boxed rounds or reloads his own, more of the latter.

    DD may have timed this release wrong or they just wanted to cash into the craze and pulled this thing off of whatever back burner it could have been sitting on before December 14.
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaseN View Post
    As an aside, I'd kill to be part of the "SHOT Show media member range day" !!!!
    I turned it down, it (media day) is a total travesty. I don't think you are missing anything at all. SHOT needs to figure out what they are doing with media, or people claiming to be media.
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