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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    The MTV is a travesty, and if I ever find out who was responsible for that abomination I will kick them the balls every day until they die.
    What's an MTV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    What's an MTV?
    A huge tortise-like covering designed in a vaccume by risk-adverse cowards.

    http://www.machinegun.fr/im/241111_1...A6ugq_imsb.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    A huge tortise-like covering designed in a vaccume by risk-adverse cowards.

    http://www.machinegun.fr/im/241111_1...A6ugq_imsb.jpg
    That thing looks about as enjoyable as a bowl of exploding dicks.

    You guys have to wear that shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    That thing looks about as enjoyable as a bowl of exploding dicks.

    You guys have to wear that shit?
    Unless you are using an alternate armor system (unit depending) or the SPC, yeah. Luckily I was never saddled with one except for some training, and even then it was a mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    What's an MTV?
    It stands for Modular Tactical Vest and its new and "improved" brother the IMTV which stands for Improved Modular Tactical Vest.

    ETA: Beaten to it by F2S
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    Do the crotch protectors suck when trying to move out of a vehicle, or helicoptor stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Unless you are using an alternate armor system (unit depending) or the SPC, yeah. Luckily I was never saddled with one except for some training, and even then it was a mess.
    Saw you in a video from SHOT displaying some sexy Kac gear.

    So what do you think about the idea of a VLTOR upper system? The A5 is a great idea though...if true.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    Do the crotch protectors suck when trying to move out of a vehicle, or helicoptor stuff?
    The dick-flap and ass-panel are useless. They get in the way of everything, and will oocasionally bunch up under your nethers when diving into position. The added protection is not worth the weight, especially considering that the panels aren't sufficiently armored to stop much more than a psychopathic mosquito.

    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    Saw you in a video from SHOT displaying some sexy Kac gear.

    So what do you think about the idea of a VLTOR upper system? The A5 is a great idea though...if true.
    I like the A5, have it on my primary instructor gun, think it would be great to see retrofitted to the Corps' guns.
    I have never used an VLTOR upper, so I can't really give an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    The dick-flap and ass-panel are useless. They get in the way of everything, and will oocasionally bunch up under your nethers when diving into position. The added protection is not worth the weight, especially considering that the panels aren't sufficiently armored to stop much more than a psychopathic mosquito.
    Okay, here's a question.

    A friend had me try his ballistic codpiece. Not sure who made it, but he told me (to illustrate how garbage they are) to go prone as quickly as possible. When I did it, the dick flap (I really love that you called it that.) went forward too soon, like it was just freely floppin' around (lol) and when I went prone it... stabbed me... kinda. It was suck.

    Does that happen with the MTV?

    (I'll stop thread drifting now. But ballistic weiner plates have always seemed pants-on-head retarded to me.)
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    From what I've heard the VLTOR A5 is the only collapsible stock assembly the USMC has tested that has proven to be as reliable as the A2 fixed stock assembly. Reliability is one of the big reasons the Marines have not fully adopted the M4 in general.

    The biggest complaint you hear from ground Marines is that the A2 stock is just too long, especially so if your of smaller stature or if your donning body armor. It's good to hear that they are listening to the feedback and actively looking to fix the shortcomings.

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