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    I guess I should have clarified. Yes, I would expect that the weapon would be taken. But, I highly doubt that it is going to disappear for months or years.

    I know we have had several shootings in the last 2 years in AZ that were in the news and in all the cases I recall the police almost immediately stated it was highly unlikely the persons would be charged because the shootings appeared "justified". I would be willing to bet in many cases that person got their stuff back rather quickly.

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    I would be shocked if every one isn't. But in that I mean confiscation until an investigation is completed and a county, city, or district attorney confirms that they aren't going to pursue charges and it was, in fact, justifiable.

    After that I would expect in at least most cases the weapons to be returned.



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    I would think that you're most likely right.

    I think it all boils down to you either take the fight seriously or you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    In my opinion those that seem against is are new(er) members and I think they probably should re-examine their priorities and other stuff.

    Here's what I really want to know.

    1. How many firearms are actually confiscated by the police in legal self defense shootings? Would love to see stats on this. Especially because it is my understanding that many shootings are ruled on rather quickly.

    2. Why does everyone assume it would be months or years before they will get their stuff back? Is this based on knowledge or simply speculation?

    For example in Arizona if you claim self defense it is difficult to charge someone unless it can be shown their was negligence or criminal intent. It seems like there is alot of smoke and no fire here.
    Perhaps I should clarify.

    If I felt the need to defend my home with a rifle at the bedside, I would certainly use one of my SBRs.

    I have no concerns about confiscation.

    If suppressors were legal here, I'd have several.

    If I felt the need to have a rifle at bedside and if suppressors were legal, I would have a suppressor on that rifle to try to mitigate disorientation from noise and blast, not out of fear for my hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tepin View Post
    I wonder how many folks keep electronic hearing protection by the bed?
    Was talking with someone this week who stated he used them in a potential hd event. Said it allowed him to better locate "threat" in his house.

    and yes to the OPs question. my primary reason to own one.
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    I am another that lives in a SBR unfriendly state. Suppressor unfriendly as well.

    To build a weapon and not use it for its intended purpose is foolish to say the least.

    I need to move to a friendlier state and order that shorter barrel and suppressor I've been yearning for.

    This said, my 16" sits ready to roll when things go bump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tepin View Post
    I wonder how many folks keep electronic hearing protection by the bed?
    I keep 2 pair, one for wife and me.

    For the record i plan on using my sbr and suppressor for home defense (after it gets released).

    Iraqgunz, not sure what you mean by "newer" members... Age, demographic, geographic? I think alot of people's fears stem from what they see in their own local media on sd shoots, not the country at large. I live in a free stnate, but am surrounded by very liberal states that tend to indoctrine their subjects into believing the only firearms that should be owned are hunting rifles and pump shotguns.

    Case in point is the NY police officer that commented on many officers believing that ARs should not by used in self defense shoots. I feel alot if what Massad Ayoob writes is fear provoking, but it irresponsible to not think post shoot. My priorities are protecting my family and using the best tool for the job. But spending money and time on a trial that a overzealous prosecutor is painting me as a a vigilante that was foaming at the mouth to shoot someone in my home should be thought provoking.

    We will be judged by twelve "peers"... But depending where you live the difference between those peers can be very large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    1. How many firearms are actually confiscated by the police in legal self defense shootings? Would love to see stats on this. Especially because it is my understanding that many shootings are ruled on rather quickly.
    Following an actual shooting, the gun would be seized as evidence as a norm for purposes of examination and documentation. Not taking it, however good the shooting looks, would be bad practice.

    2. Why does everyone assume it would be months or years before they will get their stuff back? Is this based on knowledge or simply speculation?
    Pure speculation, and use of some exceptional examples rather than norms. Folks don't know what they don't know.

    Good evidence custodians don't want to hold exhibits one minute longer than needed to accomplish the investigative or prosecutorial tasks associated with them.
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    Does anyone actually use their SBR for regular home defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    Hearing damage is cumulative. The number of shots ordinary people fire from their SBR in defense of their home isn't enough to damage their hearing.

    But your situation might be different. You should stick with your plan. Suppressors are great if legal.
    That's not the point, we aren't talking long term effects here. We're talking how a given weapon is detrimental to the shooter in real time when unsuppressed.

    Point is
    1. I'm not making time for ear pro.
    2. I'm assuming it'll be dark, light will be kept off, I know the house so I'd be using darkness to my advantage.
    3. Given 2, I appreciate that flash will be 'eliminated', my eyes will stay adjusted. I'm not counting on only one threat, so I'll want to retain my adjusted low light vision in order to discern others in home as friend or foe. WL obviously will help with this.
    4. Noise signature is reduced, minimizing tinnitus (ringing) and allowing me to keep my hearing sharp after firing. I'm not counting on only 1 threat so I'll need my hearing to re-evaluate, figure out where others are, hear them communicate, etc.

    If my family and I walk away, it's a win. They can keep the damn SBR for all I care. Confiscation and length thereof are last on my list of priorities.
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    I use mine for home defense, travelling to and from work, and I take it out on hikes in the desert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I'm always STUNNED at the effort some guys will put into an AR build... not even an SBR... but they'll put it away and grab something else at the end of the day?

    WTF?
    This. I keep a suppressed 10.5 Noveske SBR by the bed, a suppressed MK25 in my nighstand and my wife has a suppressed G19 in her nightstand. I could give two shits if LE took it for evidence. I would get it back and more importantly my tools will give me the upperhand in the fight for my life should some POS invade my home.

    I also think your bedside gun should be suppressed. Those who think an unsuppressed gunshot in the confines of a bedroom/hallway in the middle of the night isn't such a big deal really have no clue what they are talking about. A suppressor on a firearm paired with a weaponlight gives you the upper hand. And when someone has the jump on you in he middle of the night, you need all the help you can get!


    Edit: Case in point
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A63oYgod8Y
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