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    Gelatin test: .38 spl Buffalo Bore 158 gr LSWCHP

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    .38 spl Buffalo Bore 158 gr LSWCHP gas checked fired from a S&W 638 into calibrated gelatin with four layers of denim. I kept the revolver and ammo in a Ziploc baggie submerged in ice water on the trip out to make sure the powder was at a pretty low temperature because of my results with Speer 135 gr +P Gold Dot.

    BB calibration: 586.8 fps, 3.4"

    Impact velocity: 960.4 fps
    Penetration: 12.1"
    Retained weight: 159.6 gr
    Max expansion: 0.695"
    Min expansion: 0.599"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewWiggin View Post
    Video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrw3B-8HjE


    .38 spl Buffalo Bore 158 gr LSWCHP gas checked fired from a S&W 638 into calibrated gelatin with four layers of denim. I kept the revolver and ammo in a Ziploc baggie submerged in ice water on the trip out to make sure the powder was at a pretty low temperature because of my results with Speer 135 gr +P Gold Dot.

    BB calibration: 586.8 fps, 3.4"

    Impact velocity: 960.4 fps
    Penetration: 12.1"
    Retained weight: 159.6 gr
    Max expansion: 0.695"
    Min expansion: 0.599"
    So how did the bullet gain weight upon firing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICANHITHIMMAN View Post
    So how did the bullet gain weight upon firing?
    The 158gr is a nominal bullet weight. There is variation with every bullet, especially cast lead bullets, so it could have been a heavier than 158gr weight. Some might be stated as a nominal 158gr but actually cast out consistently 160gr or 161gr. ETA: When I cast a nominal 180gr WFN for my .357 Mag, it actually weighs 186gr then with gas check and lube is 188gr.
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    That's correct. I thoroughly rinsed it with hot water to make sure I didn't weigh any gelatin or denim. I did weigh one in the past before and after rinsing and there is no significant difference. Gelatin just isn't anywhere near as dense as lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Armament View Post
    The 158gr is a nominal bullet weight. There is variation with every bullet, especially cast lead bullets, so it could have been a heavier than 158gr weight. Some might be stated as a nominal 158gr but actually cast out consistently 160gr or 161gr. ETA: When I cast a nominal 180gr WFN for my .357 Mag, it actually weighs 186gr then with gas check and lube is 188gr.
    That makes perfect sense, I never thought of it. Thanks
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    Your 638 a 2" barrel model I assume?

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    Yes sir.

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    Was this the +P version or the std pressure version?

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    +P version.

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    Thanks for the info.

    Nearly 1000fps is moving along from a snub.

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