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Thread: Opinions Please on "high end" piston models: Christensen vs LWRC...

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    I don't own one, but I've been very impressed with the Huldra line of gas piston guns.

    http://www.huldraarms.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    I don't own one, but I've been very impressed with the Huldra line of gas piston guns.

    http://www.huldraarms.com/
    They use Adams Arms piston kits. Just saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    But you should have enough mags that you don't need to see a grief councelor if you destroy or damage one.

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    if youre dead set on a piston system then get a FN SCAR forget the rest of that crap, if you cant afford a SCAR then get a colt, bcm, noveske, dd any of those. Or you could look at Legion firearms..I dont know where they are with their spec's but you could search it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Hammer_Man View Post
    They use Adams Arms piston kits. Just saying.
    Including some proprietary modifications, but yes, I'm aware of that. My opinion is based on seeing their actual performance and reliability.

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    I'm looking for a piston system for the ease of maintenance ...

    I have a very busy life with little time to spend cleaning/maintaining my guns. I also have young children whom I don't want climbing all over me while I have a gun laid out on the table for clueing. I basically want to shoot the carbine at the range, come home and lock it up until next time. Cleaning at a minimum.

    At the same time I also want it to be a quality piece, reliable, and accurate, comfortable to shoot end also viscerally appealing to me.

    That's why I was looking at a piston gun - ease of maintenance.

    Thanks for all your replies. I'll keep looking !

    GSY

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    Scar 16/17...I believe I read a thousand rounds between "recommended" cleanings...look no further..

    Quote Originally Posted by GSYGlock View Post
    I have a very busy life with little time to spend cleaning/maintaining my guns. I also have young children whom I don't want climbing all over me while I have a gun laid out on the table for clueing. I basically want to shoot the carbine at the range, come home and lock it up until next time. Cleaning at a minimum.

    At the same time I also want it to be a quality piece, reliable, and accurate, comfortable to shoot end also viscerally appealing to me.

    That's why I was looking at a piston gun - ease of maintenance.

    Thanks for all your replies. I'll keep looking !

    GSY
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    If you are concerned about cleaning a DI gun you should do a search on this site for "filthy 14"
    As the great warrior poet Ice-Cube once said, "If the day does not require an AK, it is good."

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    Well you have this

    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    You don't want to take an LWRCi to a gunfight. Over priced GARBAGE!

    You can brag about how much you spent on it.... but that's all the value you have.

    Piston ARs don't belong in the defense category anyway.. So the enitre premise is doo doo.
    And then you have this

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Vickers View Post
    Not sure if I posted this in my SME forum before but here goes; many of my students have heard this and I mention it on my carbine I & II DVD's-

    Piston AR's have their place- to determine if you need one ask yourself four questions;

    1) Do I need a barrel length shorter than 14.5 inches
    2) Do I need to run my gun suppressed a lot
    3) Do I need to shoot a lot of full auto
    4) Do I need to shoot a wide variety of ammo

    Piston guns have been shown to be superior in those four categories over a DI gun. If you can say no to all four questions a good DI gun will do you fine

    My favorite DI brands are BCM ( who is one of my show sponsors ) and Colt ( who I have no affiliation with- other than a buddy who works there)- from what I have seen both of those brands build good solid AR style rifles that are proven performers

    In piston AR's the gold standard of course is the HK 416- the civilian legal version called the MR556 is basically the same gun with some changes like a heavier, non chrome lined bore that make it different enough that some people prefer to source a grey market HK 416 upper or choose a different piston gun. The MR556 has an excellent reputation for accuracy and although heavy is a very well made rifle. Another piston brand I have seen that I have seen good results with is LWRC - the majority of LWRC guns I have seen in my classes perform well; If I wanted a piston AR and did not want an HK product I would look at an LWRC offering.

    The Internet, and M4C is no exception, has been full of non objective comments and threads regarding this subject- I would urge potential buyers to sort thru the emotion to determine what makes sense for them - remember any of the guns I listed with good ammo ( getting harder to find these days at a reasonable cost), good magazines and well lubed have proven to be reliable performers; in fact we live in the golden era of AR style black rifles- never before has there been so many good choices in this category

    There are other quality brands on the market to be sure- I just listed the ones that I have the most experience with and have seen the fewest problems with in my classes

    Now the task is up to you to take the emotion out of your decision making process and buy a carbine that you decide will get the job done

    Be safe

    LAV
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    Re: Opinions Please on "high end" piston models: Christensen vs LWRC...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    Including some proprietary modifications, but yes, I'm aware of that. My opinion is based on seeing their actual performance and reliability.
    What modifications? I thought they literally used AA complete uppers that they rebadged?
    "I never learned from a man who agreed with me." Robert A. Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSYGlock View Post
    I have a very busy life with little time to spend cleaning/maintaining my guns. I also have young children whom I don't want climbing all over me while I have a gun laid out on the table for clueing. I basically want to shoot the carbine at the range, come home and lock it up until next time. Cleaning at a minimum.

    At the same time I also want it to be a quality piece, reliable, and accurate, comfortable to shoot end also viscerally appealing to me.

    That's why I was looking at a piston gun - ease of maintenance.

    Thanks for all your replies. I'll keep looking !

    GSY
    Any DI from the several listed manufacturers on here is going to be able to run like a champ as long as you have good lube and keep it wet. Some of the biggest shooters on here and that I know almost never clean their rifles and have no problems. Do a quick search on that and you'll see the myth about having to keep a DI AR squeaky clean is just that, a myth, left over from the days of 'Nam.
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