how to identify stolen military optics

[munch520]

So what burden do buyers hold in this instance? IE their obligation to ensure they're not receiving stolen prop?

Or is it all on the seller of said property?

[kmrtnsn]

Grow some balls do you really think you will be prosecuted for buying a suspected stolen property valued at $500 from the Feds. At best they will notify you to volunteer to surrender items.

Numerous surplus outlets and even a few individuals have in fact been prosecuted for receiving stolen government property. The key to this is in the term "knowingly". Most commonly, it is the seller that is prosecuted as in most cases the evidence lies in the possession and access to the source. When stolen property is recovered, the buyer is not reimbursed or compensated. Most good deals just aren't. If the price is too good to be true, avoid it.

[MountainRaven]

Sorry, they're all GOV. So maybe it's a decent indicator but not guaranteed.

A few years ago, I had a CompM4 that I bought from LaRue that said, "Made in Sweden" on it. I don't believe that LaRue stole it from the government or bought it from someone who did.

[TheBelly]

Any Army logistician worth a damn can find out. The problem isn't if it was ever owned by the .gov, it's whether or not it is STILL owned by the .gov.

I can look up serial numbers and tell you whether or not it's owned by Uncle Sam.

[Shiz]

Don't the Military auction off old Aimpoints as surplus? I thought that the Military would action off big crates of stuff but the pound including optics, brass etc.

[TurretGunner]

Don't the Military auction off old Aimpoints as surplus? I thought that the Military would action off big crates of stuff but the pound including optics, brass etc.

No shit like that most likely has to be demiled. I have never seen optics at DRMO, but they would require a destruction certificate if they did.

[Iraqgunz]

I have actually seen Aimpoints at DRMO with damaged knobs, etc... they were sold as is. They were also selling IR lasers after the smashed the IR part.

No shit like that most likely has to be demiled. I have never seen optics at DRMO, but they would require a destruction certificate if they did.

[Wake27]

A few years ago, I had a CompM4 that I bought from LaRue that said, "Made in Sweden" on it. I don't believe that LaRue stole it from the government or bought it from someone who did.

That's why I said not guaranteed.

Has anybody seen the dude on the EE who has a bunch of Aimpoints and a shit ton of Matech rear buis? He said he traded a weapon for a pile of the irons. Seems like complete bullshit to me.

[TurretGunner]

I have actually seen Aimpoints at DRMO with damaged knobs, etc... they were sold as is. They were also selling IR lasers after the smashed the IR part.

That's crazy. ITAR controlled items. Hell they put destruction requirements on some silly shit. Sounds like some slipped through the cracks.

[orion21]

That's why I said not guaranteed.

Has anybody seen the dude on the EE who has a bunch of Aimpoints and a shit ton of Matech rear buis? He said he traded a weapon for a pile of the irons. Seems like complete bullshit to me.

I looked at his history too, just about everything he's listed since 2010 is the kind of stuff that doesn't usually go on property books, with the exception of the optics. Really shady, here in LA I have personally witnessed CID & MPI cracking down.