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    Quote Originally Posted by heat-ar View Post
    Van halen do you wear glasses?? I ask only because i would like to know how the aimpoint works looking threw glasses then looking threw the aimpoint at say 100 yards.
    If your current glasses let you see your target, at whatever distance, clearly, then looking through an Aimpoint will let you see the target clearly and the dot will be in focus on the target (assuming any astigmatism you have is corrected by your prescription).

    Presbyopia creates a different problem with iron sights. It's a solvable problem with the right prescription but it can lead to a kind of complicated discussion with your opthalmologist or optometrist and usually costs a lot of money.

    It's true that shooting iron sights usually has you looking through the top of your eyeglass lens rather than the bottom where the near-correction usually is. You can experiment by adding a stick-on lens for the appropriate distance to your front sight. It's a pretty cheap way to go and has worked well for me.

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    My glasses are for seeing far off like for driving. With my glasses on things up close let say within 3 ft thinks are a little blurry and since the aimpoint will be about a foot way or less i thought it might make looking threw my glasses and then looking threw the aimpoint blurry. With my glasses off i can see the front sight better but then i can't see the targets very well. Put my glasses on the front sight is a little blurry but then i can see the targets better. Which ever way i go there is a clarity issues. When i get time this week i will try call some of these company that make shooting glasses. And make some calls to aimpoint and eotech and see what they have to say on the issues. I am sure they have heard all these question before.

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    My slipping 59 year old eyes like the 1x4 scopes because I can focus the scope where the Aimpoint H1 I have on my other AR has no focus adjustments, so it's mostly for shots inside 200 yards.

    A good 1x4 is most likely your best option if you want to make long range shots and still be able to use it in close quarters with both eyes open. Aimpoints and Eotechs are good out to 200 yards for most people but magnification increases your speed and accuracy beyond that range.

    There are a number of quality 1-4s out there, pick one with the reticle that you like.....I chose the Burris XTR with the BDC reticle. Scope and ADM scout mount came to around $900.
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    You know Gunzilla when i first started looking for some optics sights a scope really never cross my nine.But the more info i get the more i and looking at 1-4 adjustable scope. If i get a scope i would like one with nice red dot (i think) or maybe a 2-5 or something like that.Thanks are you guys for your info it helps a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heat-ar View Post
    My glasses are for seeing far off like for driving. With my glasses on things up close let say within 3 ft thinks are a little blurry and since the aimpoint will be about a foot way or less i thought it might make looking threw my glasses and then looking threw the aimpoint blurry. With my glasses off i can see the front sight better but then i can't see the targets very well. Put my glasses on the front sight is a little blurry but then i can see the targets better. Which ever way i go there is a clarity issues. When i get time this week i will try call some of these company that make shooting glasses. And make some calls to aimpoint and eotech and see what they have to say on the issues. I am sure they have heard all these question before.
    Seeing far off, like looking at a 25-100 yard object the size of a golf ball? Like the bull on a paper target?

    As I mentioned, the reticle of an RDS is projected onto the plane of the target, so you don't focus on the RDS reticle itself a foot away, you focus on the target and the reticle is superimposed on it, and in focus. I have presbyopia. I need about 1.5 diopters correction to focus on the front sight of my pistol and still be able to see the target well. Works great for pistols with iron sights. If I try to use that some lens correction shooting with my Eotechs or Aimpoints, I can't focus on the reticle. Eotechs become unusably pixelated and Aimpoint reticles become an unusable misshapen blob. Take my close-focusing glasses off and all is well. Both reticle and target are razor sharp.

    If you get prescription glasses made to let you focus a foot away "on the Aimpoint", you won't see the reticle of the RDS clearly - it will be out of focus and you will be unhappy.

    Do some reading on reflex sights and how they work. It might help you to understand how vastly different they are from the concept of iron sights and from rifle scopes.

    You need to actually try an RDS of some kind on a rifle using your regular driving glasses. I certainly would do that long before dropping $300 on a pair of custom shooting lenses that will render your Aimpoint/Eotech less than useful.

    If you do indeed decide to buy a magnified optic, that may very well solve your problems because such a scope will have a diopter adjustment on the eyepiece so that you can adjust it to your eyesight and be able to focus on the target image in the scope - you can adjust it to work either with your driving glasses on, or adjust it to work without them.
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    I've used 1-3 Weavers for years on a number of rifles, including AR's. Set on 1 it's quicker than any other sight. (if you get your mind right.) The newer 1-4's and 1-5's shoud be more of a very good thing. I'm thinking of mounting a 1-3 on a trap shotgun just to prove it'l work. The Weavers are rugged (I had one on a .458 magnum) and have a very heavy crosshair which can be picked up faster than any red dot. Of course your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montanadave View Post
    My eyesight has been crap since age eight (moderately severe myopia). Had LASIK around forty with good results, but by age fifty the presbyopia was getting bad enough to require readers. Then I needed cataract surgery a couple of years later.

    Won't be long and I'll be posting a thread about which RDS would work for my new BCM blunderbuss.
    Same deal with the cataract surgery - took a course of steroids for an illness and the next thing you know, cataracts. I chose far vision so I need readers for up close.

    I also noticed, as my pre-cataract presbyopia became apparent, that I would seemingly shift eye dominance when shooting pistol with both eyes open. My doctor said it was because my right eye (non dominant) was more myopic than my left eye and the brain sometimes does that. He suggested one close focus and one far focus contact, this worked okay, but I noted a loss of depth perception.

    After the cataract surgery (which brought me to 20/15 20/25) I noted the same problem shooting with both eyes open. I talked to my ophthalmologist and we ended up with a .75 diopter magnification in my dominant eye, boy it does the trick.

    I'm LE and retired Army reserve so I get my glasses through Oakley @ Standard Issue. I normally wear non-scrip m-frames or splices and keep the prescription glasses in my range bag.

    The magnification in the left eye is so minute it doesn't really matter, that is just what I do.

    My doctor is a gun guy, so he didn't freak out when we began discussing this - we measured the focal point in his office using my daily shooter Glock.

    I shoot optics with both eyes open and really don't have a problem with the dot on the target.

    YMMV

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    Lots of good info here, thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G woody View Post
    I've used 1-3 Weavers for years on a number of rifles, including AR's. Set on 1 it's quicker than any other sight. (if you get your mind right.) The newer 1-4's and 1-5's shoud be more of a very good thing. I'm thinking of mounting a 1-3 on a trap shotgun just to prove it'l work. The Weavers are rugged (I had one on a .458 magnum) and have a very heavy crosshair which can be picked up faster than any red dot. Of course your mileage may vary.
    That would be interesting to see. I'm thinking with even a wide field of view it is going to be hard to track a clay pigeon. However this is getting kind of off topic.

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    No Sir, no glasses. I might should be. I believe the difference is the eye is not trying to focus from target back to irons back to target. I've heard it explained but those things are beyond my knowledge. I've worked with friends that struggle hitting targets at 100m (effectively) with magnified optics. They can eat up a steel target using my rifle with an Aimpoint rapidly without strain. I also wonder if shooting through it both eyes open helps. Hard habit to get into, but extremely better method.

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