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    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    I'm not expecting extreme precision. I use federal ammo mostly. I'm going to be using either a bipod or some sort of rest. I've heard that a heavy barrel is better for accuracy because it doesn't flex as much. Can I mount a scope on anything other than a flat top?
    He's saying that damn near every manufacturer that puts out quality rifles sells them with flat top receivers. For 300m and Federal ammo just get a quality rifle. Stainless and all of that other stuff isn't necessary for that range or ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    I'm not expecting extreme precision. I use federal ammo mostly. I'm going to be using either a bipod or some sort of rest. I've heard that a heavy barrel is better for accuracy because it doesn't flex as much. Can I mount a scope on anything other than a flat top?
    You need to quantify what it is that you are expecting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    He's saying that damn near every manufacturer that puts out quality rifles sells them with flat top receivers. For 300m and Federal ammo just get a quality rifle. Stainless and all of that other stuff isn't necessary for that range or ammo.
    Correct. That's what I'm saying and what everybody else who has read this thread was thinking: It's going to be a flat top, not sure why you are asking/worrying about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Longer barrel means higher velocity, not necessarily better accuracy.



    And I know he means "long range" shooting. My question still stands. Some brands like DPMS and Bushy offer "optics ready" models that just have a flat top and low pro gas block but doesn't necessarily mean anything about extending range or accuracy.

    OP - as Warp said, more specific. How far are you looking to shoot and what would you consider to be accurate?
    Fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    I'm not expecting extreme precision. I use federal ammo mostly. I'm going to be using either a bipod or some sort of rest. I've heard that a heavy barrel is better for accuracy because it doesn't flex as much. Can I mount a scope on anything other than a flat top?
    I'm shooting 8" groups at 300 yards with a Daniels Defense light weight barrel. I need to try with better ammunition though. I was using the Israeli Independence 55GRN stuff which I have found not to be consistent lot to lot.

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    Well to have my scope on my current flattop, I had to buy a riser because it didn't clear the rail. Even with high rings. So i was wondering if there were guns more purpose built for a scope instead of a red dot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    Well to have my scope on my current flattop, I had to buy a riser because it didn't clear the rail. Even with high rings. So i was wondering if there were guns more purpose built for a scope instead of a red dot.
    What is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    Well to have my scope on my current flattop, I had to buy a riser because it didn't clear the rail. Even with high rings. So i was wondering if there were guns more purpose built for a scope instead of a red dot.
    That is simply a matter of using the correct mount for your optic.

    It has nothing to do with the gun being 'built for' a red dot or for a scope.



    Can you please quantify what you are expecting, accuracy/precision wise, out of the rifle?

    By quantify I mean numbers. Facts. Not subjective undefined terms like "extreme precision".

    What do you expect/want to get out of the rifle?

    People here are trying to help you, trying to hold you by the hand, but you aren't being very helpful. If you put shit in, you get shit out.
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    as far as accuracy goes, an inch at 100 yards would be nice, but the best I can reasonably get would be awesome. I just have a nikon p-223 on it for now, but might upgrade to something nicer when the funds become available. I know my question is vague, but it just seems that there would have to be uppers that are more useful with a scope, and others that are more useful with a red dot. For instance, what barrel length should I look into? I'm not intending on carrying this rifle or using it for anything other than paper punching at a range, so weight isn't a factor, and neither is portability. So are the same companies (DD BCM etc) that are good for general use with a red dot good for more ranged use too?
    Last edited by cthompson36; 02-18-13 at 21:07.

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    An inch is pretty optimistic for an AR15 @ 100 yards, even with a quality gun. 1.5 to 2.5 MOA is little more realistic.

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    it is? I always hear about people getting that kind of accuracy. either way, 2 inches would make me happy. The only reason I don't like my red dot at range is the dot covers such a large area I can't get any kind of accuracy at a range.

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