Help Please: new to Aimpoint Micro H1

[Ledanek]

so here is my first run in with my Micro H1

sorry I only had a silver marker at the time

1) first target: I was shooting using red dot only. at the time, my red dot was factory setting, meaning it was dead center inside the optics. fired 3-shots looked at it was baffled.
it didn't occur to me that the bore was actually lower than the red dot.
fired 3 more, same results of course, lots of head scratching for the next minute.
fired 1 more with same result

light bulb appeared, I then proceeded to shoot absolute co-witness on my Micro H1 that sits high on a LaRue LT660. I aimed center mass of silhouette between 12-16 with iron sights AND red dot.

first 3 were low...I did a total of 12 shots...not sure if visible my writing of number "12"

then I looked up the paper target.


"IMPROVED AR14 W/ OPTICS 25M ZERO TARGET
for a 50/ 200M zero

more head scratching....did it matter I was in an indoor range with 25 yard max distance?

2-3 targets...absolute co-witness shooting...happy with grouping
then I lowered my rear sight and tried one shot on red dot only:
you'll see at the bottom right of paper target---- a stray shot? that's my red dot shot

4th target--- I realized I was done to my last few 223 so I just went absolute co-witness all the way.

I should have listened and taken notes on what James Yeager http://youtu.be/ziavHvTlfKo

Now, I await for the next shipment, hopefully, of ammo in my area.

I still got my stash of 5.56 but, I'm not going to be using those....just yet.

Any tips on what I should do next? Advance thanks

[Endur]

Battle zero it, then read the manual and calculate how many clicks you would need in correspondance of a square for that particular zero target. Fire three round iterations. First three, check and make no adjustments. Next three, confirm and make adjustments. Continue until grouping is within the circle, once inside make single click adjustments for fine tuning if desired. Remember your fundementals.

[Ledanek]

My iron sights are zero at this indoor range (25yards)

It's the red dot optics I'm not familiar.

I've watched Magpul Dynamic video and Aimpoints step by step

kinda hard to have fundamentals without ammo to practice with

[polymorpheous]

I'm a bit confused here.
From what I'm reading, you are expecting the Aimpoint to be zeroed out of the box?

[Endur]

My iron sights are zero at this indoor range (25yards)

It's the red dot optics I'm not familiar.

I've watched Magpul Dynamic video and Aimpoints step by step

kinda hard to have fundamentals without ammo to practice with

Fundementals are universal. Sight picture, trigger pull, cheek weld and breathing rythm. Remember to keep both eyes open with red dots.

[Ledanek]

I'm a bit confused here.
From what I'm reading, you are expecting the Aimpoint to be zeroed out of the box?

No sir. Not at all. That's why when ammo became available, I took that H1 to zero it. Unfortunately, like Endur said, my fundamental is not set, yet.

I have access to an indoor range with 25 yard max.
I have zero'ed my iron sights already.

This time, I'm trying to zero my H1 to lower 1/3 co-witness application.

I did set my red dot on top of the front iron sight, like in Magpul Dynamic video. Unfortunately, every time I lower my rear sight, and use red dot's 1/3 co-witness with the front iron sight only, that round (seen on target #2 & #3) will be so far off...like at the bottom right.

Unfortunately, I only had so much ammo that day, that I couldn't apply my fundamental going "for the red dot."

so on target #4, I just shot my remaining rounds absolute co-witness instead...

not exactly what the H1 was made for = lower 1/3 co-witness

off-topic, when I was looking for ammo at local gun store, it felt like an episode of the Walking Dead. Scrounging for ammo. Seeing those empty shelves, no ammo available, that show just got real on me. I was just happen to be at another isle, looking up. Someone must have stashed it up there.

[Endur]

Your irons are a back up if your red dot goes down. Do not try and overlay the dot with your front post. Use the dot only. I also think you are misunderstanding what fundementals are.

The purpose of 1/3 cowitness is to have the irons in the bottom 1/3 of the optic so the red dot does not overlap the irons. As if you have both front and rear flip up sights, you don't have flip them up if your optic goes down. Or if you have fixed front and/or rear sights they arn't taking up the whole view through the optic. Hence bottom 1/3. It is determined by the height of the optic mount.

[zerocool]

For the OP - in reading the post a few times, it seems you may be using both the red dot and irons at the same time. I'll explain what I think you may be doing (and my apologies if you are not).

When shooting with the H1:
1. Flip down rear sight, front sight is fixed
2. Using H1 dot to align with front sight

If that IS the case, then "step 2" is completely unnecessary. You should be using the dot "solo." As in, when using the dot, ignore the position of the iron sights completely. The H1 and the irons are independent of one another. Again, I apologize for stating the obvious, but after reading the post a few times, it seemed like some fundamental confusion existed.

[Hmac]

When shooting with the RDS, you need to ignore the iron sights.

[Ledanek]

Your irons are a back up if your red dot goes down. Do not try and overlay the dot with your front post. Use the dot only. I also think you are misunderstanding what fundementals are.

The purpose of 1/3 cowitness is to have the irons in the bottom 1/3 of the optic so the red dot does not overlap the irons. As if you have both front and rear flip up sights, you don't have flip them up if your optic goes down. Or if you have fixed front and/or rear sights they arn't taking up the whole view through the optic. Hence bottom 1/3. It is determined by the height of the optic mount.

this is most helpful. I'll take this knowledge next time opportunity arise. I just hope DHS doesn't take ALL the ammo.