Help Please: new to Aimpoint Micro H1

[Ledanek]

For the OP - in reading the post a few times, it seems you may be using both the red dot and irons at the same time. I'll explain what I think you may be doing (and my apologies if you are not).

When shooting with the H1:
1. Flip down rear sight, front sight is fixed
2. Using H1 dot to align with front sight

If that IS the case, then "step 2" is completely unnecessary. You should be using the dot "solo." As in, when using the dot, ignore the position of the iron sights completely. The H1 and the irons are independent of one another. Again, I apologize for stating the obvious, but after reading the post a few times, it seemed like some fundamental confusion existed.

Most definitely got it confused. I really think I was shooting RDS THROUGH the iron sights. Big mistake. Hope someone will learn from my mistake and not waste their ammo.

[Captiva]

I did. Thanks.

[polymorpheous]

Seems like your irons are pretty well zeroed.
Maybe a click to the left.
What you can do is use the irons to adjust your dot.
This will get you close, but not dead nuts.

Set the rifle up so it is steady, in a vice or something similar.
Focus on your irons and adjust your dot so it looks like the 3rd pic in the graphic above.
When you go to the range, it should require minimum adjustment.

This has worked for me several times with new RDS's.

ETA:
Also, when you do get it zeroed with that 25yrd target, try at confirm at 50yrds and 200.
I've used that same target and it does pretty well.

[NeoNeanderthal]

Most definitely got it confused. I really think I was shooting RDS THROUGH the iron sights. Big mistake. Hope someone will learn from my mistake and not waste their ammo.

Exactly

1. Red dot and irons are separate. You dont use them together (especially when zeroing). They have nothing to do with each other. front and rear irons go together. Aimpoint is stand alone. Ive had new shooters try to use the dot and the front sight post together on my gun, but irons are just back up.

2. lower 1/3 co witness has NOTHING to do with zeroing your red dot or your irons (because you do it separately). Basically, because you already have your aimpoint mount, forget you ever heard 1/3 cowitness.

3. FYI The magpul video was trying to say that once you have your irons zeroed (as a short cut) you can turn on your aimpoint and looking through the rear sight insure your the dot is sitting at the tip of your front sight. (your not shooting any rounds here, just adjusting your aimpoint) This will get you very close so your not dicking around. This is akin to boresighting. Now, Fold down your irons and then zero your red dot (shoot the target). You should be close. Conversely if your red dot is zeroed you can put on irons and looking through all three insure that the front sight is in the same place as the dot, as a short cut.

*****For you, as a confused new shooter (no offense). Regardless of if the irons are zeroed or not. Forget about them and just shoot 3-5 rounds. Look at your target and then adjust your aimpoint. Remember your "moving the strike of the round" so if your low move the aimpoint dial "up."

[Ledanek]

Seems like your irons are pretty well zeroed.
Maybe a click to the left.

thanks, will do that adjustment first before moving to RDS

Focus on your irons and adjust your dot so it looks like the 3rd pic in the graphic above.
When you go to the range, it should require minimum adjustment.

will do

Also, when you do get it zeroed with that 25yrd target, try at confirm at 50yrds and 200.
I've used that same target and it does pretty well.

Unfortunately, I do not have access where I live for 50 and 200 yrds. Closest is 2hrs away in Aurora, IL and have to be a member with hefty membership fees. Not sure if they have a day pass. Then again, I do not have that much ammo to justify driving 2hrs away for a whole day of shooting...will check my lottery ticketssss constantly

[Endur]

3. FYI The magpul video was trying to say that once you have your irons zeroed (as a short cut) you can turn on your aimpoint and looking through the rear sight insure your the dot is sitting at the tip of your front sight. (your not shooting any rounds here, just adjusting your aimpoint) This will get you very close so your not dicking around.

Also known as "lollipopping".

[shootist~]

If you are canting the gun when you adjust the RD to the top of the FSP, it will be off. This is really just to get thing "close", anyway.

Zero the irons to your satisfaction. Fold the irons, or look over the top and zero the RD. Now, and from the same shooting position, look thru the irons - the RD should be sitting on top of, on, or very close to the top of the front post.

Absolute or Lower 1/3 co-witness matters not, if you are looking thru the rear irons. The top of the front post and the RD should be in close aliment either way. You cannot take an Absolute mount and make it Lower 1/3 (if that's what you are attempting).

Usually the irons are set using a 6:00 hold or variation thereof, (so you don't obscure the target with the front sight) - POI is a little higher than true POA. The RD is POI=POA. Assuming the desired POI is the same for both, the sight picture (aiming point) can be a little different.

On my Micro /w an ADM Absolute co-witness mount (looking thru either aperture), the RD is slightly "into" the top edge of the front post, as opposed to be fully on top (or above) it. What you perceive could be different, but that's unknown until you actually get both zeroed. Start by lowering the RD until it actually touches the FSP - this will raise the RD's POI.

[Ledanek]

Those are very good directions.
I'm going to copy-paste it to my Notes so its available offline in my iPod Touch

[Ledanek]

Also known as "lollipopping".

Is this technique good for less than 25 yards or CQB?
I'm entertaining this not to be lazy but, my primary purpose of the carbine is for home defense.
Had bad experience with handgun so pls, lets keep it about RDS.

[wahoo95]

Is this technique good for less than 25 yards or CQB?
I'm entertaining this not to be lazy but, my primary purpose of the carbine is for home defense.
Had bad experience with handgun so pls, lets keep it about RDS.

Once you get the red dot zero'd you place it on your target and squeeze......works the same from CQB distances out to your zero.

Have you signed up for or taken any carbine classes? In person instruction goes a long way to explaining much of this and eliminate much of the overthinking.