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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxman7 View Post
    This is what I was pondering. Are they sandcuts or designed to just reduce friction?

    -Jax
    The Colt was described as sand cuts, now how they function compared the the KAC ones I have no idea.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Silly Rabbit! Sandcuts are for FALs
    INSIDE PLAN OF BOX
    1. ROAD-RUNNER LIFTS GLASS OF WATER- PULLING UP MATCH
    2. MATCH SCRATCHES ON MATCH-BOX
    3. MATCH LIGHTS FUSE TO TNT
    4. BOOM!
    5. HA-HA!!

    -WILE E. COYOTE, AUTHOR OF "EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW IN LIFE, I LEARNED FROM GOLDBERG & MURPHY"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    Another thing to note is I wonder if there is a possibility that Colt could do this with their standard carriers for the M4 if it proves to work and no IC is selected(haha). They could possibly do something like a TDP update? yes or no?
    Colt can't do anything to the TDP of anything they supply to DoD without direct approval from DoD.

    That's the Procrustean bed of mil-spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick sweeney View Post
    Colt can't do anything to the TDP of anything they supply to DoD without direct approval from DoD.

    That's the Procrustean bed of mil-spec.
    Thanks, I wasn't sure how exactly that worked. I know LMT submitted their BCG to the PiP, and they did not choose anything so maybe they don't offer that big of an advantage in the 5.56 package.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    In broad strokes, here's how it works;

    The DoD sets the minimum standards it wants for equipment. The providers submit samples, and if/when something is submitted, that whatever, in all of the details that can be nailed down, is cast in stone.

    That's mil-spec.

    A manufacturer can, if the spec does not deny it, submit something that is actually superior, provided;

    It is absolutely interchangeable with the existing interfaces
    Does not require any difference in maintenance, inspection, gaging, etc.
    Is not rejected by the issuing authority
    And does not cost any more than the specified price in the contract.

    Example;

    Carpenter 158 was a really good steel in 1959. Since then we've found better steels. Could Colt substitute a superior steel? Maybe;

    If it requires no change in maintenance, gaging, eyc.
    No-one objects to the change
    And Colt sells the new bolts at the same price as the old ones.

    Can Colt convince DoD to re-write the spec? (Not that they haven't tried.)
    Sure, but;

    They'd have to convince DoD that the new steel is actually superior
    That the new bolts will have a service life greater enough to warrant the cost of testing to prove it (You don't think DoD is going to take Colt's word for it, do you?)
    And finally, that the improved product is worth the hassle of having two different bolts in inventory, until they can use up all the old bolts.

    Glaciers move fast, compared to mil-spec changes.
    Last edited by patrick sweeney; 02-25-13 at 12:11.

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