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    I'm a little confused - After considering an ADS and a parts gun from J&T/DS, I had narrowed my choice on a 2nd AR to a Bushmaster from my local Sportsman's Warehouse or an LMT from Grant.

    Bushmaster was around $900, but I'd buy a spare LMT BCG - total cost around $1030. It would be an exact copy of my existing rifle (still need to buy the LMT BCG as a spare for that one though).

    My other option is an LMT from Grant at $1250, but I would still buy a spare LMT BCG for $130, bringing the cost up to $1380.

    I figure a spare BCG is a good thing to have, regardless of make of rifle.

    Then I saw this posted on this thread...

    You can buy an LMT (in parts) for around $929 and don't have to "swap" anything out.
    Here is my confusion...

    On the LMT web site, I priced out seperate components to make a complete rifle as follows...

    LMT : 16" Upper Receiver Assembly with flash suppressor - $485
    LMT : 5.56, Standard F/A Bolt Carrier Group - $129
    LMT : Charging Handle Assembly - $23
    LMT : Handguards - $39
    LMT : Defender Lower with Collapsing Stock and Standard Trigger - $330
    LMT : Tactical Adjustable Rear Sight - $119

    Total cost - $1125

    None of the parts listed were at the high end of LMT's options list. Even so, what can I eliminate that I don't need to bring the price down? I'd still probably buy from Grant, either a complete gun or parts, but how do I get it down to the level he mentioned earlier?

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    There is no picture 17MB as a jpeg and 3 as a bmp. Other way around.

    So why does Bushy make these special rifles?

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    Simple mathmatics I beleive..

    Grants website info...

    Complete LMT rifle 1250.00

    LMT Defender Lower with Collapsing Stock and Standard Trigger ..330.00

    M4 Flattop Upper Receiver w/ 1/7 Twist, Chrome-lined Barrel, and M4 barrel extension. Includes a Gas Tube, A2 Flash Suppressor, LMT Charging Handle and PRI Military Latch. ...485.00

    CMT Bolt Carrier Group (MP Tested...135.00
    LMT handgaurds 35.00

    Grand total.....985.00


    I dont kn ow about you but 985.00 is a heck of lot better than 1250.00

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    Hey thats not funny.......I paid the 1250 for my LMT But I am also lazy and dont trust myself to start screwing with things. Untill I can buy the 10.;5" upper

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    I didn't realize the LMT upper included the charging handle, but that only accounts for $23. One still needs a sight, and I know I would want a very durable sight - I have no immediate plans to buy an optic, and I want whatever sight I put on the stay on, without moving around, even if hit or bumped. That is why I bought an A2 for my first rifle - seemed stronger.

    If I buy an upper, a lower, a BCG and handguards, how hard is it to put them together? It's not like I am building a parts gun. Wouldn't it be the same as the procedure I go through whenever I disassemble for cleaning and reassemble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonshot View Post
    If I buy an upper, a lower, a BCG and handguards, how hard is it to put them together? It's not like I am building a parts gun. Wouldn't it be the same as the procedure I go through whenever I disassemble for cleaning and reassemble?
    It's all a simple, 2 minute job that doesn't require a single tool. Mount handguards, insert charging handle, insert BCG, snap upper and lower together - done. If you don't have good hand strength, you might want a partner when mounting handguards. There's a tool to make the job easier, but it is NOT necessary.

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    And to answer your question, yes, you do that anyhow when you clean it. Proceed with confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideHz View Post
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    So why does Bushy make these special rifles?...
    My educated guess is that the TX DPS decided to contract with Bushmaster for the production of a rifle that fits their department's needs/requirements.


    Here's a few links:

    http://www.gtdist.com/TXDPS-AR15.htm

    http://www.gtdist.com/ProductDetail....M-BCWA3F16M4TX


    TX DPS rifle requirements (PDF document):

    http://www.gtdist.com/M4-specsheet.pdf

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    Uh
    I am new and all, but why the Hate for Bushmaster ? I have 1 AR-15 and I use it for Hunting Coyotes, Crows and Groundhogs.
    I am looking into buying another AR-15, but one with a 16" Barrel.
    So what is "The" AR-15 to buy ? I thought about buying a "Kit" Gun from some Company, and then Building myself to save Hard to come by Money ?
    Maybe I need to read on here a little more
    Moon Doggie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Doggie View Post
    Uh
    I am new and all, but why the Hate for Bushmaster ? I have 1 AR-15 and I use it for Hunting Coyotes, Crows and Groundhogs.
    I am looking into buying another AR-15, but one with a 16" Barrel.
    So what is "The" AR-15 to buy ? I thought about buying a "Kit" Gun from some Company, and then Building myself to save Hard to come by Money ?
    Maybe I need to read on here a little more
    Moon Doggie
    The issue is: what are you going to use your rifle for? If your intended purpose is to shoot 'yotes, dogs, birds, or cans then a Bushmaster might be a viable solution.

    If your intention is to have a hard use rifle that's capable of anything, and capable of maximum reliability then Colt, LMT, or a custom built rifle from Grant or some of the other vendors here
    is the solution you should look to.

    No machine is perfect, but if you want to maximize the possibility that it will go bang every damn time you pull the trigger then I would not look to BM. Get a Colt or LMT and be done with it.

    Oh, and welcome
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