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    11.5" again, BUT

    In a similar situation as I want to build a second SBR upper I find the current light weight to be near perfect for me with one exception! I would like to have one upper with a dedicated RDS and keep the current with it's ACOG.

    It is my belief that the 11.5 in 5.56 still gives more than adequate ballistic performance and portability without compromise.

    YMMV

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    OP, you could use the money you'd put into another upper to buy a Dillon 650 or Hornady LNL press and start rolling your own 300blk rounds. Just a suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    A 16" AR will do about anything you ask it to and it is effective at longer ranges. But I do notice a difference in hold-overs between it and a 20".
    Don't get caught up in barrel length. For practical purposes, a 14.5", 16", 18", 20" are all going to be about the same. Of the options I'd went 16" as it was the shortest I could easily reconfigure and would continue to do so again. Although if you forced me to go longer, it would be 20".

    I was hitting 18" steel at 600 this weekend with a 14.5 though using 69gr SMKs and a 10x nightforce. The issue for even the guys shooting 308 gas guns was wind. It's always wind. I don't care if I have to dial or hold elevation to 1.0 vs 1.2 at 300 or 3.0 at 600 those are all just numbers, meaningless, the only factor I care about is did I get the wind call right. For the most part if you're being practical, get the heaviest bullet with the highest BC you can and move along. Barrel length is nothing to get hung up on, get the best deal on any length as it's only a wear item we're talking about and move along.

    For the OP.... Identify what role you want another rifle to fill and build around that. No role? No rifle.
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    Re: Idle lower help

    Quote Originally Posted by RIGPIG View Post
    OP, you could use the money you'd put into another upper to buy a Dillon 650 or Hornady LNL press and start rolling your own 300blk rounds. Just a suggestion.
    Took the words straight from my mouth

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    +3 on starting to reload. For the price of another nice upper you could get equipment and supplies to make at least 1K of 300 BLK ammo. JMO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmnielsen View Post
    I don't have them all done but this is what I'm working on:

    -An SBR with a red dot and irons.
    -A 16" with 1-4 powered optic for 3 gun and other use.
    -A 20" with a 2.5-10x viper pst or similar for longer range.

    That will cover any type of shooting I need to do with a 5.56 without having builds that will never get used. I wouldn't build any more in the same caliber once those were all covered.
    I agree. I have a 16" carbine with an Eotech. My 18" Middie sports a Leupold 2x7 and for longer distances a have a 26" Winchester 25 Super short mag with a Nikon 4x12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIGPIG View Post
    OP, you could use the money you'd put into another upper to buy a Dillon 650 or Hornady LNL press and start rolling your own 300blk rounds. Just a suggestion.
    Good call. thanks.


    Let's say I get into reloading. What do I need to get started? I looked into the two kits you mentioned above. And I'll be looking, searching, studying over the next several days or weeks now, thanks to you.

    I know for me, reloading would not be for the sake of being cheaper, nor trying to dial a super accurate round. I just want the convenience to make my own. Especially my spent .223 cases into 300 blackout and whisper.

    But would anyone be so kind to post a list of everything I'd need to start reloading .223, 300 BLK, maybe some .308 and pistol rounds too.
    Yes I am a total NOOB at this. In the mean time, I'll be consumed with internet info about the subject.

    Thanks to all
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    Quote Originally Posted by matemike View Post
    Good call. thanks.


    Let's say I get into reloading. What do I need to get started? I looked into the two kits you mentioned above. And I'll be looking, searching, studying over the next several days or weeks now, thanks to you.

    I know for me, reloading would not be for the sake of being cheaper, nor trying to dial a super accurate round. I just want the convenience to make my own. Especially my spent .223 cases into 300 blackout and whisper.

    But would anyone be so kind to post a list of everything I'd need to start reloading .223, 300 BLK, maybe some .308 and pistol rounds too.
    Yes I am a total NOOB at this. In the mean time, I'll be consumed with internet info about the subject.

    Thanks to all
    Try the reloading forum on this site. It has all the info you need.

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    Glad my suggestion started you down the path to enlightenment . Either press will serve you well, probably just a matter of which one you can get your hands on. I've found that the Dillons are readily available for MSRP on GunBroker, and that's probably your best bet as Dillon is claiming 12-16 weeks to turn out orders. Either press can be run without the case feeder and bullet feeder and still churn out 400-500 rounds per hour.
    You'll need the following to get started:
    -press
    -scale
    -case trimmer
    -dies
    -dial calipers (for case measuring and OAL)
    -case lube
    -shell holders
    -case holding trays
    -powder measure
    -powder trickler
    -reloading manual
    -case tumbler
    -primer pocket tools
    -bullets
    -primers
    -powder
    -since you'll be cutting down .223/5.56 cases, a mini chopsaw
    I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but just a little research will give you a better idea of what will work best for you. Good luck.
    Last edited by RIGPIG; 07-25-13 at 20:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIGPIG View Post
    ... The only downside of the Dillon is that it uses a proprietary 3 die setup,....
    That is incorrect regarding the Dillon 650 xl and Various other Dillon full size machines.

    The only Dillon Reloading machine that uses a Proprietary 3 Die set up is the Dillon Square Deal which only reload pistol cartridges. Which makes it irrelevant to what the OP is attempting to Load 300blk.
    Last edited by Travelingchild; 07-25-13 at 07:51.

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