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    Aluminum version:





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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxman7 View Post
    Neo,

    Since the introduction of the aluminum redi-mag the steel versions' price has dropped considerably.

    Mag couplers suck in my opinion.

    -Jax
    I'm curious to know what you see as downsides to couplers.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxman7 View Post
    You're making a judgement on a piece of gear because of a photo?

    -Jax
    No, making a judgment on a piece of gear because I already abhor a whole bunch of extra gear on my rifle. Fortunately I went through that phase of my collecting habits.

    This is no subtle addition to a rifle, especially once you latch on that full magazine.

    I feel bad for the guy that is required to make such a heavy addition, but I understand that for those in the fight... have a different set of variables to contend with.

    Fortunately I can enjoy my ignorant bliss and not have to consider such weighty decisions that could mean life or death... especially for someone actually on the front lines of the WOD or some other battle in far-away lands.

    I must say that is one sweet setup Jaxman. Looks awesome, and I would imagine quite effective for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 556noob View Post
    I'm curious to know what you see as downsides to couplers.

    Thanks.
    I haven't used one, but I've seen plenty of people post downsides.

    If you hit the mag release as you normally would with any other setup, you just dumped your next perfectly good magazine as well as the empty/bad one. You have to remember to grab the mag(s) before hitting the mag release.

    If the other magazine is open-topped, the top round can walk forward under recoil or as a result of your movement, and cause a malfunction when it doesn't feed properly.

    If the other magazine is open-topped, you can get debris or who-knows-what in the magazine.

    If the other magazine is not open-topped, you have to take an additional action...such as removing a PMAG's dust cover...before you can insert the mag, at which point simply going to your belt or chest rig or whatever for your mag is probably as fast/faster.

    And of course the extra weight.

    A redi mag or redi mod would seem to address/solve these issues. Hit the mag release and you only dump the mag that's in the gun, and the top of the mag is covered to prevent the top round from walking forward + protect it from debris.

    Although, as mentioned in this thread, people still see downsides to that...but it sure seems better than coupled mags, as long as you can live with having the thing on the side of your rifle even if/when you choose not to use it.

    My personal perspective is a regular joe six-pack who primarily uses his carbine for home defense/personal defense and shooting at the range + in matches and training. I don't have a bunch of gear or kit. The only mag pouch I have is a simple single mag holster for my belt. I keep it next to the carbine in the corner of the bedroom. I have seriously considered putting another mag on the rifle, so that I do have a spare mag in case something goes wrong with the first one or I have a malfunction to clear or the world ends and I could actually use more ammo. If I really wanted a spare mag on the rifle, a redi mod is probably what I'd go with. And I might. Then even if I take the rifle on the road with me, or go somewhere with it, or whatever, I don't have to pick up a single thing other than the rifle itself and I still get a spare mag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 556noob View Post
    I'm curious to know what you see as downsides to couplers.

    Thanks.
    I tried a couple different versions out a few years ago so if I miss an important point out feel free to add.

    1. Magazine couplers are typically loaded with the right mag inserted into the magwell. When the left mag is inserted this leaves the right side mag sitting directly over the magazine release. Making it more difficult. to access the button if another mag is needed or if a malfunction that necessitates removing it from the magazine well.

    2. If you do need to remove a magazine to clear a malfunction (or even just perform a mag change) under stress you can insert the wrong one. I've done it myself.

    3. The possibility of rounds jumping the feedlips on the uninserted magazine. Companies such as Brownells make covers (and of course the PMAG dustcover) for them to keep this from happening but that is just something else to go wrong and slow you down.

    4. Two mags coupled together are more difficult to manipulate.

    5. Another malfunction related issue: If the uninserted mag is on the left side and you need to lock the bolt to the rear the left mag can make that manipulation slightly more difficult. For me at least es of course the same issues arises w/the Redi-Mag which is one reason I would never run one without a BAD lever.

    Most of the above can be chalked up to a raining makes perfect issue but in my humble opinion their are better more efficient alternatives.

    -Jax
    Last edited by jaxman7; 03-05-13 at 14:53.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ick View Post
    No, making a judgment on a piece of gear because I already abhor a whole bunch of extra gear on my rifle. Fortunately I went through that phase of my collecting habits.

    This is no subtle addition to a rifle, especially once you latch on that full magazine.

    I feel bad for the guy that is required to make such a heavy addition, but I understand that for those in the fight... have a different set of variables to contend with.

    Fortunately I can enjoy my ignorant bliss and not have to consider such weighty decisions that could mean life or death... especially for someone actually on the front lines of the WOD or some other battle in far-away lands.

    I must say that is one sweet setup Jaxman. Looks awesome, and I would imagine quite effective for you.
    Ick,

    My post probably came off rude. Apologies for that.

    I can appreciate your points but the extra weight is offset by the ability to have another magazine directly on the gun for my purposes.

    -Jax


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    Yeah, I see the advantage there. I think the redi-mag is the better choice if one HAS to run something. I also see why guys CHOOSE to have the extra magazine when warranted.

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    Keeping a spare mag on your rifle

    Adrenaline,
    By "sky-rack" are you speaking of this?
    http://www.bigskyracks.com/2010/09/els-270/

    Mounted above your head to the cage/roof?

    If so, that's how our Redi-Mag equipped rifles ride. I'll snap a pic tomorrow night when I'm back out.

    But, they work fine/great. No interference.

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    Keeping a spare mag on your rifle

    On another note, I'm not sure about his department, but ours has us carry a PMAG20 of "penetrators" and another in the Redi-Mag of what someone has deemed a "residential structure safe" soft nose round to protect against shooting through multiple homes, apparently.

    The majority of our jurisdiction is industrial, with only a small residential area. When assigned to the residential area, soft nose are in the mag well, the rest of the time, the good stuff. I have been told that the rounds were a political move to placate voters nervous about their cops running around with rifles.

    A small compromise in my book.
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    Bunch of route steppers.

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