Optics decision/availability

**glockshooter** · 03-01-13, 21:21

The target turrets on that scope are very prone to being knocked off zero. It happened to me numerous times. That is why I switched to the capped version.

Matt

**DarkJ** · 03-01-13, 21:28

Originally Posted by Kitts

Try calling cabelas. I picked up my viper pst 1x4 last week at the store in Dundee mi. I was back there yesterday, and they still have them in stock. I'm not sure if they will ship in store inventory or not, but its worth a shot.

i called, the closest one is like 5 hrs from me. they told me if i wanted to drive they have them in stock but online orders are back ordered.

@glock but if the vortex rep wasnt just trying to get me to spend another $20 he told me they dont do that unless you throw the rifle and at a difference of $20 i may as well get the best bang for my buck. im not able to find either atm anyway so i guess i have a bit to figure it out

**glockshooter** · 03-01-13, 21:29

The target turrets on that scope are very prone to being knocked off zero. It happened to me numerous times. That is why I switched to the capped version.

Matt

**DarkJ** · 03-01-13, 21:32

Originally Posted by glockshooter

The target turrets on that scope are very prone to being knocked off zero. It happened to me numerous times. That is why I switched to the capped version.

Matt

have you used a burris(other than mtac) by chance? im curious on how bad the difference is between the burris/leupold and the viper. I will take your word for it and go with a capped viper if i can find one, but if i cant find one by monday i will probably go with a mtac or leupold. i just really had my heart set on that viper

i hated the tac30 couldnt stand it. the mtacs reticle doesnt look bad on videos, just not sure. i really hate this panic buying stuff killing the market

**glockshooter** · 03-01-13, 23:12

I have experience with all three scopes you mentioned the tac30 and mtac are the same scope with a different illumination switch. The reticle in both Burris scopes is exactly the same. That reticle offers no precision. The center dot is just to big. The leupold is a better choice on the reticle side but it is a 1.25-4. The vortex in my experience is better due the the true 1x and the reticle design. I would go vortex over the others and the leupold over the Burris.

Matt

**DarkJ** · 03-01-13, 23:23

Originally Posted by glockshooter

I have experience with all three scopes you mentioned the tac30 and mtac are the same scope with a different illumination switch. The reticle in both Burris scopes is exactly the same. That reticle offers no precision. The center dot is just to big. The leupold is a better choice on the reticle side but it is a 1.25-4. The vortex in my experience is better due the the true 1x and the reticle design. I would go vortex over the others and the leupold over the Burris.

Matt

I hated the tac30, so that knocks out the mtac and the tac30 haha. Im gonna go in the AM to check out some leupolds at another shop about an hour from me(im killing gas looking at optics lol). Hopefully i will like those cause vipers are near impossible to get at the moment it seems.