Illinois AWB

[gunrunner505]

This would be a great state if it wasn't for Chicago. Great Sacia video.

How tough would it be to kick out Chicago? They can go be like Luxembourg, city state, on their own...

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[nml]

That is quite insulting to Luxembourg. Rahm Emanuel's crime Mecca probably had more reports last year than Luxembourg has had in the last 200.

[gunrunner505]

Since Chicago is pretty much a giant turd wrecking the whole state, if we can get rid of it somehow then it helps the rest of us. Not a cure all but it's a start.

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[g-rap]

Since Chitcago is full of brainless zombies anyways, why not send in Daryl and Rick to eradicate them. This is a joke of course, at least the Daryl and Rick thing.

[AlphaKoncepts]

Senate Bill 1002 (the mag ban) may be resurfacing. Todd V, the NRA lobbyist in Illinois, is advising we all contact our state senators and express our disgust. I haven't checked but heard rumor that an Amendment was filed on this bill yesterday as well.

[gunrunner505]

Doesn't an AWB ban violate the Heller decision? There is a part in there about being able to regulate dangerous or unusual firearms however as the AR is no more dangerous than a common hunting rifle, and the most popular rifle platform in the country it is certainly not unusual.

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[jpmuscle]

For those who didn't catch this in the news and because we all know bad guys don't carry where alcohol is served and only carry 10 rounds on their person at any time. Gotta think of the children too.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...y-legislation/

Illinois Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn triggered a backlash from his own party as well as the NRA on Tuesday after he unilaterally changed legislation meant to allow the carrying of concealed weapons.

In a challenge to gun-rights supporters, Quinn moved to cap the number of firearms and rounds that can be carried by Illinois residents and ban guns from any place that serves alcohol.

The move was a nod to the governor's gun-control base as the state faces a court-ordered July 9 deadline to allow concealed-carry.

But, by using what is known as his "amendatory veto power," Quinn could imperil the carefully crafted deal, which now heads back to the legislature.

Some lawmakers have already vowed to reject Quinn's new provisions.

Sen. Bill Haine, a Democrat, says he hopes lawmakers will override the veto. Assistant Majority Leader John Sullivan said Quinn "ignored the will of the people."

NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam also criticized Quinn's changes. "Limiting the rights of law abiding people has never been an effective tool in reducing crime. Arresting, prosecuting and punishing criminals is. That's a simple and straightforward concept that reasonable people grasp," he said in an email.

Before the court ruling, Illinois was the only state in the nation to still prohibit citizens from carrying concealed weapons. The legislation was meant to remedy that.

Quinn, in announcing his decision to impose last-minute changes, claimed the bill had "serious flaws" that jeopardize public safety.

"Therefore I've used my power under the constitution of our state to make important changes, common sense changes, to protect the safety of our people," he said.

Among those changes, he called for guns to be banned from any business where alcohol is served.

"Guns and alcohol don't mix. And I think it's very important that the legislature understand that message from the people of Illinois," Quinn said.

He also added a restriction so that licensed gun owners would only be allowed to carry a single concealed gun and one ammunition clip holding up to 10 rounds.

Sen. Tom Cullerton said Quinn tried to score "political points" with the veto.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2XxBU3jgX

[Alaskapopo]

For those who didn't catch this in the news and because we all know bad guys don't carry where alcohol is served and only carry 10 rounds on their person at any time. Gotta think of the children too.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...y-legislation/

The 10 rounds is BS of course but mixing booze and guns is not a good idea. That part I support but I would change the verbiage to allow for those going to dinner in a restaurant that serves alcohol so long as they are not drinking. Forbid guns in bars and establishments where the primary thing sold is alcohol.
Pat

[Alpha Sierra]

That part I support but I would change the verbiage to allow for those going to dinner in a restaurant that serves alcohol so long as they are not drinking. Forbid guns in bars and establishments where the primary thing sold is alcohol.
Pat

Who cares what you think?

Plenty of states have proven you wrong by not forbidding people from carrying in any place that serves alcohol, bars included, and yet not having the "wild West" crap your kind always fearmonger with come true.

[ryr8828]

Who cares what you think?

Plenty of states have proven you wrong by not forbidding people from carrying in any place that serves alcohol, bars included, and yet not having the "wild West" crap your kind always fearmonger with come true.

Thank you, my thoughts exactly. I can walk into a bar and then leave without being drunk.
Bloomberg from NY is already injecting millions to keep us in IL from exercising our rights, now we have law enforcement from Alaska chiming in wanting more restrictions.

I seldom even go to bars anymore outside of having a couple at the golf course clubhouse after playing golf. However I just view all this bullshit as a tactic. The courts have ruled we have the right so the gun grabbers try and place as many restrictions on the right as possible to the point of actually denying it.

You can carry a gun with a permit except
in a bar
on public transportation
in a park
in a library
within so many feet of a school or day care center
in a federal building
in a state building
at a sporting event
at a place where there is a gun prohibited sign

And not in the parking lots of any of these either, which means you can't even disarm to go into any of these places, you're breaking the law the minute you park your car.
So you can carry in your home or yard is what it amounts to, unless your home and yard is next door to a day care center or school.

I'm used to libs posting anti gun messages on my website, we're having a hell of an argument there about George Zimmerman right now. Kind of surprising to see so many posts wanting to take my rights away on a site like this one here though.