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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I know exactly what forum this is and its purpose. But since you wanted to lay the bait, I'll spring the trap.
    No bait, just an observation of a contradiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    You questioned why anyone would need to use a torque wrench. You have been a member here for 2.5 years and apparently you don't know that there are torque values.
    Speeking of observation, during my 2.5 years here, I have seen you repeatedly lock threads that contained questions to answers that were already given if a simple search was utilized....yet, according to the below, you create a thread that covers many topics that I have already researched in my time here...I don't mind it personally, and it would surely help other people who haven't had their hands on the AR build process, but nonetheless, it's another contradiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Additionally it shows me that you spend little time actually reading any of the technical stuff or you wouldn't be asking that question. This particular question has been asked several times over the years. I was simply providing a tip based upon my observations and not provide full detailed instruction on how to do the task. If people really want to learn more they will do some RESEARCH.
    I am quite adept at research. I have never heard of anyone actually using a torque wrench for a castle nut. The common practice that I was aware of was torque, then stake....as confirmed by yourself below...

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    In reality you don't need a torque wrench. Apply some anti-seize and get the nut snug, then apply a little more umph. It'll be fine. Just make sure that you stake it good.
    ^https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=48596

    I research only what I need/want to know. There's not enough time in the day to research everything, yet when I happen across a thread called "Technical Tip of the Day" that mentions something that sparks a question, and I ask that question, and then get called out for "picking apart and dissecting" everything, I'm left thinking "WTF?"

    Either way, I'm out, you can have your thread and have a good day.
    Last edited by Ironman8; 04-03-13 at 16:43.

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    Since you love to argue I will leave it with this.

    1. You can't torque something without a torque wrench. You can however "tighten" something.

    2. I tell people to use a torque wrench and I have often stated it's not necessary. That's not a contradiction, that's called playing it safe because there are people who would screw it up or allow their buddy to screw it up otherwise. The manual states to use a torque wrench and that's the default answer.

    Still unsure why you have some issue with this thread. It was designed to refresh people's minds and provide some basic info to help them out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman8 View Post
    No bait, just an observation of a contradiction.



    Speeking of observation, during my 2.5 years here, I have seen you repeatedly lock threads that contained questions to answers that were already given if a simple search was utilized....yet, according to the below, you create a thread that covers many topics that I have already researched in my time here...I don't mind it personally, and it would surely help other people who haven't had their hands on the AR build process, but nonetheless, it's another contradiction.



    I am quite adept at research. I have never heard of anyone actually using a torque wrench for a castle nut. The common practice that I was aware of was torque, then stake....as confirmed by yourself below...



    ^https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=48596

    I research only what I need/want to know. There's not enough time in the day to research everything, yet when I happen across a thread called "Technical Tip of the Day" that mentions something that sparks a question, and I ask that question, and then get called out for "picking apart and dissecting" everything, I'm left thinking "WTF?"

    Either way, I'm out, you can have your thread and have a good day.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post

    Referring to the Castle nut.
    Once it is tight, you can place the torque wrench or breaker bar on the on the tool and continue to tighten the castle nut.

    A few things that will greatly assist are the Hammerheadrifletool, a good receiver extension from Colt, BCM, LMT or Vltor (these I like!) and good good endplates from the same.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman8 View Post
    Is there a torque range that you shoot for? I've honestly never heard of using a torque wrench for these...only tighten as much as you can with the tool (in hand) and then stake...which I still need to do...
    A torque wrench OR a breaker bar can be used, as stated in Iraqgunz's post.

    If you didn't know there was a torque value for the castle nut, fine, (not everyone knows that nuts and bolts require a minimum torque value so their fastening is functionally proper), but don't make a great deal about it. R.E.s are not exactly tight when screwed into the lower receiver, and the castle nut along with the end plate, when tighten to that minimum value, provide the necessary rigidity for this part of the AR to function properly. Some engineer figure this out some time ago. If one isn't a wrench turner, one has no idea how much 37 to 40 ft/lbs is, let alone 45, 50, or even 60 ft/lbs for the barrel nut.
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