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Thread: Mid size local PD to buy SR556s and LWRCs

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    Call and request a copy of the comprehensive test and evaluation report. File a public records request if necessary. Note what response you receive, or lack thereof.
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    Cory, I know quite a few of the guys on that team and from what I know the chief had nothing to do with the decision. It cam down to the team and the officer in charge of the firearms program that made the decision.

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    Here's what I don't quite grasp. Why would the LWRC be a good choice for SWAT and not for patrol and vice versa? Are there profound differences between the set ups?

    Why would you try and support two different systems that both do the same thing? Maybe I am missing something here.

    Quote Originally Posted by wburns View Post
    Have to share this...

    A friend of mine, who is a shooter, is also a LEO for a medium size municipal police force. The department recently decided to go away from F2000s to go back to a traditional AR platform.

    They apparently just got done testing and in their tests, the Ruger SR556 apparently beat the Colt, DD and whatever else they tested... The SWAT guys are being issued LWRCs. I am totally confused as to how this happened... This is definitely the first department to swap to Rugers around here that I know of. Interesting interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Here's what I don't quite grasp. Why would the LWRC be a good choice for SWAT and not for patrol and vice versa? Are there profound differences between the set ups?

    Why would you try and support two different systems that both do the same thing? Maybe I am missing something here.
    Perhaps the LWRC guns are "better" than the Ruger guns, but are cost prohibitive so they can only afford to equip people who are most likely to user their long guns with the better weapon? That's my WAG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Here's what I don't quite grasp. Why would the LWRC be a good choice for SWAT and not for patrol and vice versa? Are there profound differences between the set ups?

    Why would you try and support two different systems that both do the same thing? Maybe I am missing something here.
    I was thinking the same thing. Why not issue the same rifle to everyone to keep costs of weapon training, armorer training, replacement parts etc. down?
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    Separate budget allotments maybe?

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    Then my follow up would be how many times is the SWAT team called out on regular basis as opposed to the patrol officers who are out every day/night?

    I would like to know what the testing criteria and requisites were for their choices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Perhaps the LWRC guns are "better" than the Ruger guns, but are cost prohibitive so they can only afford to equip people who are most likely to user their long guns with the better weapon? That's my WAG.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Separate budget allotments maybe?
    Where I work it's a separate budget and separate testing and evaluation issue. SWAT buys what it wants based on senior SWAT leadership decisions from the SWAT budget and patrol gets what the training academy/Chief wants from the general fund/federal grant money. This is why I have a city issued M&P .40 and City issued Springfield Operator.

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    LWRCs might be in 6.8? 1/7 twist on lwrci and 1/9 twist on rugers, Maybe seperate bullet weights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wburns View Post
    Have to share this...

    A friend of mine, who is a shooter, is also a LEO for a medium size municipal police force. The department recently decided to go away from F2000s to go back to a traditional AR platform.

    They apparently just got done testing and in their tests, the Ruger SR556 apparently beat the Colt, DD and whatever else they tested... The SWAT guys are being issued LWRCs. I am totally confused as to how this happened... This is definitely the first department to swap to Rugers around here that I know of. Interesting interesting...

    Will
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