Remington 700 in Manners T5A with Mini-Chassis - Need Help.

[The_Count]

I have a Manners T5A with mini-chassis that was originally on a Surgeon 591. In order to run my Rem 700 action in the stock I had to clearance the area to the left of the trigger shoe ( Timney Trigger), and relieve an area behind the bolt slot to allow for the back swept 700 bolt. While I understand that the chassis is a Floating tang design, it feels like the action is unstable. Is that normal? Also when I lay the barreled action into the stock it rests in the center, but when I tighten the front action screw the barrel begins to torque to the right. When I install and begin to torque the rear action screw the barrel moves all the way to the right of the barrel channel. Am I doing something wrong here? Is it binding somewhere that I don't see? All in all I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling about the action returning to the same location each time. It seems like it slips and slides around in the chassis until you start tightening down. I have attempted to capture the above issue in the pictures below. By the way, this barrel channel is for a Krieger heavy palma. If the channel had been for a varmint/sendero it would be contacting the side.

I would appreciate any advice/assistance.

Chip

[orkan]

Have you called Manners?

Surgeon actions require a little different treatment than remington. If it's inlet for a surgeon, then that's what's suppose to go in it. You could bed it.

[The_Count]

I spoke to Tom, and he said the chassis should be fine with the 700 action. More than likely the issue was still in the trigger (either a pin protruding to far, or the saftey pin causing the action to be off axis.). I will remove the trigger, and re-install the barreled action to eliminate the trigger as an issue.

Chip

[VooDoo6Actual]

Chip,
I've seen what your describing happen.

Have you Chem dyed the safety or trigger pin in question to indicate if it / they are interfering ?

Looks like your barrel channel is too small as well.

I'd open up your barrel channel some as well.
Either send it in Manners to have done or get a wooden dowel & sand paper, secure your stock & go slowly until you get the barrel channel opened up to more clearance. Then I'd skimbed it to at least just beyond the lug.

Can't see from the pics but a R700 Bolt handle has approx. 11 degree sweep angle. Is your bolt handle channel in stock straight ?

[The_Count]

Voodoo,

The stock has a straight bolt channel, but I modified that to fit the Rem. bolt. That was no problem really, it was the easiest part. I haven't checked the safety pin, but I do think it is playing a role in the issue I'm having. The barrel channel is for a heavy palma, and I have the factory Rem. varmint barrel, so there is ton's of room around it. I'll report back tonight after I have verified the trigger is the cause.

Thanks for the advice.

Chip

[VooDoo6Actual]

Voodoo,

The stock has a straight bolt channel, but I modified that to fit the Rem. bolt. That was do problem really, it was the easiest part. I haven't check the safety pin, but I do think it is playing a role in the issue I'm having. The barrel channel is for a heavy palma, and I have the factory Rem. varmint barrel, so there is ton's of room around it. I'll report back tonight after I have verified the trigger is the cause.

Thanks for the advice.

Chip

Copy.

Pics make the barrel channel look closer than it is apparently. Mine have considerably more room than your pic indicates. I could store food in my barrel stock channels.

May want to dyechem or paint mark the stock where it's inletted on inside to see if trigger/safety pin are interferring/touching stock etc.

[AR15barrels]

Dis you inlet enough of the left side of the trigger area to also clear the 700 bolt stop parts?
The surgeon inlet will not have that area inletted as the surgeon bolt stop is on the left side of the receiver at the edge of the stock.

[The_Count]

I did not inlet the the trigger area. I removed a bit of material to the side of the trigger shoe.

Last night I popped the trigger out and bolted the action into the stock. It was still pushing to the right. Now I know that there is no pressure on the trigger area.

I am going to borrow a friends rifle and bolt it into the chassis. If his rifle is straight then either my barrel is off or my action is drilled off center.

If his rifle is canted the the chassis must be canted in the stock. Either way I'm sure Manners will do everything possible to help me out.

Chip

[orkan]

Did you read this?

Dis you inlet enough of the left side of the trigger area to also clear the 700 bolt stop parts?
The surgeon inlet will not have that area inletted as the surgeon bolt stop is on the left side of the receiver at the edge of the stock.

[The_Count]

Greg,

I did read that. The stock will, more than likely, be going back to Manners to have that area opened up. Right now I am having the same problem without the trigger installed, so I think its safe to assume the trigger isn't causing the issue. It may in fact be a a secondary issue, but not the primary. I am expecting a call from Mr. Manners some time this morning. I will mention this when I speak to him. At lunch I am picking up another rifle to test in the chassis. I will try it with and without the trigger also.

By the way, you haven't yelled at me about my Muzzle Brake yet. Are you feeling ok?

Thanks for all the advice.

Chip