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    Re: New guy with a custom lower I promise nobody has seen!

    Quote Originally Posted by mkmckinley View Post
    No current Army school teaches a mag well grip. Not sure about the other services but it is considered obsolete.

    It's pretty cool that you designed and built a lower. I wish I had the skills to do that. If you end up thinking of improvements to the next one then you'll still have the experience of building this one.
    I didn't design it. I wish I had the skills to do something like that. I just finished it from 80%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polymorpheous View Post
    How could I show you any examples?
    What manufacturer leaves the FCG pins unfinished?
    Examples as in pictures of people who's pin holes were egged. Manufacturers don't leave them unfinished because they mill the entire thing prior to finishing/coating it. There's no point in covering the holes. I on the other hand got this as 80% and it was Alodined and Coated prior to milling.

    I'll be honest with you man. I've had a guy who not only retired from Beretta after designing and building weapon systems for them but also currently works on military contracts tell me they will not egg out. No offense but I'll tend to take the word of a man with his background. Not to mention it would literally be impossible to achieve if Anti Roll Pins are used. The physics just aren't there.

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    Ok man.
    Have fun with your lower.
    Good luck.
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    Anybody that owns or sells pistol versions of assault rifles is a bottom feeder, irregardless of the ban status of certain ammunition.

    They are illigetimate weapons that have no real purpose other than to attract retards to the gun community.

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    I don't know about you, but this 100% unit looks like finished and coated holes to me...

    Jack C.
    cleaned up my gun list for Odie, hope this makes you feel better.. is my target ok? I
    can delete it too..

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    Re: New guy with a custom lower I promise nobody has seen!

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo38gn View Post
    I don't know about you, but this 100% unit looks like finished and coated holes to me...

    Yup. That is one of his lowers he sells as complete 100%. He mills the whole thing prior to finishing it. He also sells 80% lowers that already come treated and powder coated so all you need to do is mill and it's ready for the parts kit.



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    Whether I like it or not doesn't really bear on the fact that somebody really knows what they're doing with CAD and CNC and needed to express themself

    If the holes are uncoated and the alloy is theoretically, or in fact, 20% down in strength from mil spec, well, I don't see any of those "in use by secret clandestine units" claims at least.

    I don't care how other people.... wait, most other people, hold their carbine. Not even sure that this one, for people that do use the magwell hold, would be the ultimate. I doubt the Magwell Holdin' Champion of the World would realize much dif between this and a standard lower. If he did or if he didn't it wouldn't really matter to me, I doubt it would change the way I do things.

    I think it was cool when blues bands and rockers took the Hammond B3 organ out of church and started using it in a way it wasn't supposed t be used and doing things with it that some people didn't like. Even Hammond dispproved-- they didn't want their product being used "that way".

    And I think this receiver is cool. Not necessarily "the future of the AR15" and I don't think everyone must have one, but as an exercise, an experiment, a proof of technical prowess and yes, an artisic expression, I don't see any harm in it!

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    Well said, bravo.

    Something just occurred to me. Is that lower symetrical? At first I thought it was... but now that I look at the front portion of the lower magazine area it looks like perhaps not?


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    I don't think anyone disagrees that it's an artistic expression (art is always in the eye of the beholder) or display of technical prowess. It's certainly those things.

    The OP argues that it has "practical" features as well. It's the practicality of the piece that's being rightly challenged. There is absolutely nothing this lower can do that a Noveske Flared Forged Lower can't do better at a lower cost. For the price point, there's nothing this lower can do that a AXTS AX556 lower can’t do better AND offer full ambidextrous operation to boot.

    The OP's primary goal with this lower is to be unique. Mission accomplished. It's just that M4C as a general rule, doesn't value uniqueness as a trait worth paying extra for. In this case, it actually detracts from more desirable functionality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmzy View Post
    This isn't Arfcom. While we appreciate quality and asthetics, I would say function over form rules here. This thing has none of the above qualities. Not function, not form, not quality IMO. I would be absolutely embarrassed to have admitted to paying for something like this, yet alone posting it all over the internet. If that's "hating"... sorry. To each his own. Your post comes across as "Hey look at me, I've got this whiz bang thing nobody's seen before and I'm going to try and try to convince folks why it's the shiznit. If they disagree, they're haters."
    Quoted for truth and easier to quote my feelings than waste time typing them.

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    New guy with a custom lower I promise nobody has seen!

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscenejesster View Post
    Speaking of the magwell grip. Like I said before it has its purpose and I strongly believe there is no better grip to use when you need to get tight such as during close quarter combat and/or clearing rooms. It's also a good grip to utilize when in a sitting position with support under the arm you are using for the grip. I don't use the magwell grip often but I do use it. I am a firm believer in being proficient with more than one or two grips.
    I've never understood this. Using a magwell grip doesn't magically shrink the barrel, so you really can't 'get in tight' based on your grip. I'd rather have better control over the gun and training will help to get proficient in tight spaces.
    Last edited by munch520; 03-23-13 at 10:43.

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