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    If there's 1 lesson to be learned from "The Great Panic of 2012/2013", it's this: DO NOT EXPECT spare parts to be there.

    That, alone, would turn me away from any weapon system that requires proprietary parts in order to function. No piston-system -- certainly none by a small manufacturer as Adams Arms irrespective of how good/bad the quality may be -- will be as prolific as the DI-platform. Parts will always be less available. (Case in point: try to find an Adams Arms replacement piston rod or gas block right now ... from anybody other than the manufacturer themselves). It just is what it is.

    Seeing as how this is your FIRST AR, I believe the choice is very obvious.

    The AA will do absolutely nothing better than the Daniel Defense (or any other top-tier DI gun). This isn't about the "vibe" -- it is a fact.

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    It's pretty widely accepted that a piston will offer a greater recoil impulse over a similarly configured DI gun, so unless you are running a suppressed SBR....why the piston?

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    Well, I'm scared to buy anything but DI now for fear of m4carbine members stoning me to death if a piston system is purchased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iflylo View Post
    Well, I'm scared to buy anything but DI now for fear of m4carbine members stoning me to death if a piston system is purchased.


    Want a piston gun? Buy a ****ing piston gun.

    Judging by your join date, lack of experience with the AR platform, and your attitude, it sounds like you already made your mind up prior to posting this thread. Buy whatever makes you happy man. Just don't act like a whiny bitch when your shit breaks and you can't find replacement parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^Rb View Post


    Want a piston gun? Buy a ****ing piston gun.

    Judging by your join date, lack of experience with the AR platform, and your attitude, it sounds like you already made your mind up prior to posting this thread. Buy whatever makes you happy man. Just don't act like a whiny bitch when your shit breaks and you can't find replacement parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ^Rb View Post


    Want a piston gun? Buy a ****ing piston gun.

    Judging by your join date, lack of experience with the AR platform, and your attitude, it sounds like you already made your mind up prior to posting this thread. Buy whatever makes you happy man. Just don't act like a whiny bitch when your shit breaks and you can't find replacement parts.
    Sounds like someone forgot to take their "Med's" this morning before posting!

    I own a A/A 16" Mid-Length upper just for the reason to see if it would run a bit cleaner when using my favorite cheap steel case at matches and courses.

    Lots of folks here repeat the AR gospel, recite the approved brands and bash most non listed items whether they have ever owned one or had any experience with it but just because it was not on the list.

    While the list is a good place to start when considering a new AR other platforms such as piston guns are starting to make the rounds through the AR community and actual use opinions are starting to surface.

    My A/A upper on a PSA branded lower (FN built) has close to 10K fired without any function issues or part breakage. Clean up is much quicker as the upper and lower stay much cleaner with the piston design and a simple wipe down of the piston and bolt which is melonite coated takes only a minute or so to complete.

    I keep a few redundant A/A proprietary springs on hand stored in my pistol grip just in case but the originals are still going strong and if a spring ever does go its a no tool quick replacement.

    I like A/A's piston uppers and would recommend them to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ^Rb View Post


    Want a piston gun? Buy a ****ing piston gun.

    Judging by your join date, lack of experience with the AR platform, and your attitude, it sounds like you already made your mind up prior to posting this thread. Buy whatever makes you happy man. Just don't act like a whiny bitch when your shit breaks and you can't find replacement parts.
    Wow man, don't stress out. You don't have to reply anymore to this thread if you get so disgruntled. I own three hk p7m8's which are running a piston system and its one of the nicest shooting 9mm I've ever used.

    I came here to get some user feedback not to be bashed for asking questions and potentially going against the grain. Trying to locate parts during any type of panic buy will be near impossible.

    Yeah I'm fairly new to posting here but doesn't give you the right to give another person less respect for asking questions, that's an ignorant way to think. Asking question and reading from accredited resources is how we learn man.

    Appreciate all the help from members thus far minus the little aggression from you.


    iflylo

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    I had an Adams Arms upper for several months. Worked fine in limited use. Superficial signs of quality (like finish) were good. I have no idea how good the underlying manufacturing process and engineering are. If you just have to have a piston setup in something like a standard AR, it's probably a decent choice. However, I would strongly recommend a conventional DI AR instead, they work just great and are a standardized design; and if you must have a piston, I would get something like a SCAR that was designed as a piston setup from the clean sheet onward.

    A lot like barrel rifling methods, it's not so important what the operating system is as how well it is engineered. Pistons work great in the FAL, AK, SCAR, etc.... they cause issues in an AR design. DI works great in the AR, designed from day one as DI and improved since. Delayed blowback works great in a well-made G3. Etc. Buy quality, buy proven, at least if your main goal is having it work. If you want something cool and fun that you do NOT depend on, go for something different.

    Quote Originally Posted by iflylo View Post
    I own three hk p7m8's which are running a piston system and its one of the nicest shooting 9mm I've ever used.
    Those aren't a piston in the sense used in an AR - they are a gas-delayed blowback design. It's pretty cool, but there's a reason it's not common or still in production.
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    All the best ARs already have a piston
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    Quote Originally Posted by iflylo View Post
    Wow man, don't stress out. You don't have to reply anymore to this thread if you get so disgruntled. I own three hk p7m8's which are running a piston system and its one of the nicest shooting 9mm I've ever used.

    I came here to get some user feedback not to be bashed for asking questions and potentially going against the grain. Trying to locate parts during any type of panic buy will be near impossible.

    Yeah I'm fairly new to posting here but doesn't give you the right to give another person less respect for asking questions, that's an ignorant way to think. Asking question and reading from accredited resources is how we learn man.

    Appreciate all the help from members thus far minus the little aggression from you.


    iflylo
    I fail to see how a piston working in a 9mm pistol has any impact on a piston rifle. I have owned an HKP7M8 for a brief period of time, so I am really perplexed by your comparison.
    Last edited by foxtrotx1; 03-25-13 at 17:01.

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