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    WHERE ARE THE DAMN HI-POWER MAGS?!?

    Once I can find 15rd mecgars for under $30 I will be pleased. Saturday at the Melbourne gun-show the guy at the "CLIPS" booth was trying to get $55(mecgars- not mousetrap brownings) for them. The lowest I saw inside was $45. Yeah right.

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    in indiana I've been looking for .22lr and .223 for months and have barely gotten anything. its still pretty bad here haha

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    I should try and find the post on our local backpages from a wal-mart employee - who works in the supply room. If you all are interested I will go look for it, but the gist is that people are waiting outside wal-marts and hounding the drivers of the trucks...screw it. Here's the article, and I believe him.

    http://phoenix.backpage.com/SportsEq...-dark/22061403

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDM4LV1 View Post
    That depends on which "pipeline" you are referring to...
    ...Yep for guns, a bit...but all dried up for ammo now?
    What good are the guns with no ammo to shoot.


    On that point, I have a question...
    I have been TOLD, by a number of sources that have never in the past steered me wrong...that this whole ammo shortage thing is phony, bogus, "manufactured" by the "middlemen"...those "distributers" , in between the manufacturer & the retailer...in order to drive up prices, they "hoard"...then release in small amounts...fake supply & demand.
    Sounds about correct, I mean, the oil / gasoline industry has been doing that for decades!
    What say you?

    Why don't the BIG manufacturers like Hornady, Remington Winchester & Federal, as well as the big "retailers" just tell these guys to "knock it off"...?
    These ammo companies are cranking out the ammo faster than ever...but NONE to be had in stores or online?
    REALLY, come on now ?
    Not a chance.

    For starters that would be highly illegal and could get them into serious trouble.

    Besides, from a practical standpoint, there are too many of them and all it would take is one to release a whole bunch and REALLY cash in while the getting is good to break it wide open

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    One local gun shop has had over 15 AR's in stock any given day for the last 2 weeks most under $999, also have a few DD in stock. Another local gun shop has 13 stripped lowers in stock (Aero and PSA) for pretty good prices, they also have complete Core 15 and stag LPK's in stock. The other local gun shop has plenty of 7.62x39 and they are getting in PMC Xtac 5.56 and Remington .223 fairly regularly.

    The Walmart shelves are still pretty bare, but the vultures seem to be slowing down. I have managed to pick up 900 rounds of Federal .223 100 round value packs on 3 different trips in the last month. I passed on the Tulammo spam cans. 7.62x39 seems to be sitting on the shelves at the Walmart's around my area for 2 or 3 days now.

    The product is out there. Its just the luck of the draw who gets their shipments at any given time and ultimately how many people are waiting for the product. The higher the gun owner populous in your area, the more likely the shelves will stay bare.

    What a pretty sight this was! I apologize for the glare from the glass and carpet and the shoddy camera phone pic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Not a chance.

    For starters that would be highly illegal and could get them into serious trouble.

    Besides, from a practical standpoint, there are too many of them and all it would take is one to release a whole bunch and REALLY cash in while the getting is good to break it wide open
    Exactly. Usually things work like that in reverse. It's not all the businesses getting together to limit supply to raise prices, its all the businesses producing as much as possible at the lowest price possible to get a bigger share of the market. There's no money in holding back supply. Why do you think, Amazon, Wal-Mart, Costco, Cabela's, etc. are taking over the world. Tons of product at low prices. Poor selection at high prices is called going out of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gun71530 View Post
    The only ammo I can find locally is 12 gauge and .45 auto. There is no 5.56/9mm, to be found.

    Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2
    I'd be thrilled to find some .22 locally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyfishnevada View Post
    Exactly. Usually things work like that in reverse. It's not all the businesses getting together to limit supply to raise prices, its all the businesses producing as much as possible at the lowest price possible to get a bigger share of the market. There's no money in holding back supply. Why do you think, Amazon, Wal-Mart, Costco, Cabela's, etc. are taking over the world. Tons of product at low prices. Poor selection at high prices is called going out of business.
    Ok...guys, very good responses...the voices of reason
    Perhaps I should have considered the sources, young gun store yahoos & armchair experts...?
    I am getting a bit jaded, perhaps, and never was before...but with Osama, Biden, Feinstein, Reid, Bloomberg, Cuomo and cohorts...not hard to do...these talk out of both side of their mouths, or flat out LIE.
    They are dangerous Americans who believe our founding fathers & framers of the Constitution & Bill of Rights were in error and they are not "relevant" any longer for our society.
    They have got to go...and We the People have to do our part to vote-them-out and ALL who conspire & support them and their nefarious ways.
    Write ALL your local, State & Federal reps...don't become lethargic & complacent...the opposition is tenacious & vigilant and a growing minority who, if we are not matching their efforts, can become the majority, real soon!
    Sorry to get preachy, but this is serious this time, and NOT going away easily, for we have a new breed of "rulers",(or so they believe) the most dangerous administration in U.S.A. history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Split66 View Post
    I saw a Colt 6940 in the case @ the local wally world last week and walked out with 1000rds of 9mm late night. $230 for the 9, $1399 for the 6940. The ammo has always been flowing into Walmart, people have just gotten real good at getting at it at weird hours or the employees were hoarding it. SG managers and the stocking people were on to the fact they could make a good deal of cash hocking it online........
    That $1399 was the list price on my 6940 when I bought it for $1180 in Feb '12 (had a 20% off coupon)....so that's a great sign...a normal price!
    Go Buffalo !

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyfishnevada View Post
    Exactly. Usually things work like that in reverse. It's not all the businesses getting together to limit supply to raise prices, its all the businesses producing as much as possible at the lowest price possible to get a bigger share of the market. There's no money in holding back supply. Why do you think, Amazon, Wal-Mart, Costco, Cabela's, etc. are taking over the world. Tons of product at low prices. Poor selection at high prices is called going out of business.
    Your analysis discounts expectations. For example, anyone who sold any firearms part prior to sandy hook knows that if they waited just a bit longer, they might have tripled of more their sell price (not asking price, but what some yahoo would pay for it). Of course, none of us saw it coming. From a dealer's perspective, it pays in a time of panic to only release a small part of their inventory at a time in order to not flood his own market. Indeed, if the dealer over commits and buys too much at the peak of the panic then he could be stuck with inventory he can't sell, thereby taking a loss that can only be partially recouped with lower prices.

    My whole point in all of this is that a dealer, by virtue of their FFL, has relatively exclusive access to the supply of serialized firearms. They have an incentive to speculate on the panic and are in a position to take advantage of non-FFL holders. The FFL gives a monopoly of sorts.

    If the FFL/dealer expects everything to be bought at higher prices the closer a ban is to take effect, then he loses money on each sale he makes today; he would make more tomorrow. Thus, he can slowly trickle out his inventory in order to get the highest price.

    It's pretty simple economics, really.

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