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    I think if retailers like Walmart stopped rationing and just went with supply and demand prices, we would already be through the panic buying. As it is now, people see something on the shelf and they grab it whether they need it or not. If it were priced higher and people saw full shelves to reassure themselves they could get it if they really needed it, then the panic buying would end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerinTPA View Post
    I went to my local GS/Ranges (Shoot Straight & Shooters World) and the walls were covered in high quality ARs (DD, KAC, Colt 6920s), in various configurations, at very reasonable (Pre Sandy Hook) prices. I'm glad to see they are two of the very few that hasn't marked their prices.
    If you had went to shoot straight back in January/Feb you would have said otherwise. They jacked their prices for a while on what they did have (which wasn't much after the panic hit) and then dropped back once supply started coming through. They did raise their prices on ammo when they have it as well and some of it's by a lot.

    Can't say anything bad about shooters world, only wish I was closer and I would be a member there instead but it takes forever to get there and the traffic is terrible the whole way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaWoodsman View Post
    I think if retailers like Walmart stopped rationing and just went with supply and demand prices, we would already be through the panic buying. As it is now, people see something on the shelf and they grab it whether they need it or not. If it were priced higher and people saw full shelves to reassure themselves they could get it if they really needed it, then the panic buying would end.
    Hit it on the head !

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    The problem isn't the retailers. The problem is all the ignorant consumers who lack the willpower to wait a few months.

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    "As it is now, people see something on the shelf and they grab it whether they need it or not."

    If nothing else, this keeps up and when the panic buying & hoarding subsides...the shooting public segment of our society will have enough Guns & Ammo...
    ...to become a well equipped, 3rd World Banana Republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    The problem isn't the retailers. The problem is all the ignorant consumers who lack the willpower to wait a few months.
    True to an extent, but both are factors here, I believe...kinda a warped dysfunctional dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDM4LV1 View Post
    "As it is now, people see something on the shelf and they grab it whether they need it or not."

    If nothing else, this keeps up and when the panic buying & hoarding subsides...the shooting public segment of our society will have enough Guns & Ammo...
    ...to become a well equipped, 3rd World Banana Republic
    Eventually, their closets will fill up and I can get back to regular practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerinTPA View Post
    I went to my local GS/Ranges (Shoot Straight & Shooters World) and the walls were covered in high quality ARs (DD, KAC, Colt 6920s), in various configurations, at very reasonable (Pre Sandy Hook) prices. I'm glad to see they are two of the very few that hasn't marked their prices.
    I'm assuming you're in Florida, Shoot Straight is overall pretty fair, although at the Miami gunshow I saw they had DDM4s for 2k, that said they also had LMT MWS .308s for a touch under 3k (sticker price, they will come down a little). Of course I was in one of the shops just before I bought my SCAR 17s (paid a little over 2,700 for a black 17s) they had a Sig 716 listed for 2,200 and wouldnt go less than 2k for it... Not mad about that one, the employee did me a favor cause I walked away and bought the 17s instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybarbour View Post
    If you had went to shoot straight back in January/Feb you would have said otherwise. They jacked their prices for a while on what they did have (which wasn't much after the panic hit) and then dropped back once supply started coming through. They did raise their prices on ammo when they have it as well and some of it's by a lot.

    Can't say anything bad about shooters world, only wish I was closer and I would be a member there instead but it takes forever to get there and the traffic is terrible the whole way.
    I did shoot at the SS closes to me in Jan and Feb. The prices were inflated, adjusted to what they had to pay retail, but they were still far below what other local GSs and the errornet were offering, so hence I thought the prices were reasonable, considering what was going on. I haven't bought ammo from a GS in 7+ years, since I bought in bulk since joining M4C, and stocked up prior to this past election. I never even inquired about it locally. Since the last couple of weeks, their firearm prices have been GTG.

    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    I'm assuming you're in Florida, Shoot Straight is overall pretty fair, although at the Miami gunshow I saw they had DDM4s for 2k, that said they also had LMT MWS .308s for a touch under 3k (sticker price, they will come down a little). Of course I was in one of the shops just before I bought my SCAR 17s (paid a little over 2,700 for a black 17s) they had a Sig 716 listed for 2,200 and wouldnt go less than 2k for it... Not mad about that one, the employee did me a favor cause I walked away and bought the 17s instead.
    I hear you. Gun shows attract way to many idiots for me, on both sides of the counter. Watching the parade of smelly, morbidly obese bubbas dressed in camo, flagging everyone in the vicinity, while listening to brain dead dealers quote stratospheric prices while lying to customers, and claiming commercial ARs are Mil-Spec, is not a good time to be had for me. I'd rather spend the afternoon at the range, at a beach bar, Hooters or Tilted Kilt. The gun stores there have one purpose, to rip off the general public, especially since Sandy Hook. I haven't been in the market for another AR since getting a DD MK-18 last Sept, and avoid gun shows like the plague, only really going there to sell a underused firearm to someone stupid enough to pay an inflated price, (If I couldn't sell it to someone I knew first) but the cuties selling the beef jerky (and the beef jerky) is worth the price of admission...
    For God and the soldier we adore, In time of danger, not before! The danger passed, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted." - Rudyard Kipling

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaWoodsman View Post
    I think if retailers like Walmart stopped rationing and just went with supply and demand prices, we would already be through the panic buying. As it is now, people see something on the shelf and they grab it whether they need it or not. If it were priced higher and people saw full shelves to reassure themselves they could get it if they really needed it, then the panic buying would end.
    Wouldn't work.

    What's to stop a rich guy who doesn't mind paying panic prices from wiping out the stock anyway? I.e. if Walmart sold 223 for $1/rd, people with lots of money can just go in and wipe out their stock anyway. Believe it or not, some people have a lot of disposable income (which is why those AR/AK's sold for $2k and up during the panic). Raising the prices on guns/ammo is not the solution to the shortage.

    In an ideal world that might work, but realistically I don't see it as a smart move by a retailer. Look at CTD, they have guns/ammo in stock in overpriced levels but no one is buying from them. All that will accomplish is piss off consumers and some will boycott their company. What people need to do is comprehensively stop the panic buying so that the supply will come back to normal.

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