Quick question about RDS/1-4s/ACOGs

[Voodoo_Man]

True 1x to 4 optics are going to be the future standard, in my opinion. For most 556 guns a 1-6x is perfect and requires nothing else in terms of optics but a 1-4 will be just as effective and applicable for most 556 users.

[Zane1844]

I just went shooting Saturday, and for the first time went beyond 200 yards, which I can do fairly easy shooting 12" or maybe more steel. This guy (he was really cool) with a spotter scope just randomly said he'd help me shoot out to distance. I used both a 2moa Aimpoint and iron sights.

After a few adjustments, I was hitting a metal ram or pig at- I could not make out what it was, it just was pink lol- center mass or its front legs. It was difficult, but that was bench shooting not prone which I prefer, and I was not really under pressure, except being the only one shooting and the few people there were watching me.

Next was a man sized silhouette at 600 yards- I think, again I was just told what it was I never saw it. I think I hit it more with iron sights, but it was really difficult for me. When I got the holdover down, only my windage would be off, I got a lot of shoulder shots, I think, but overall more misses

All in all, with skill you can hit distant targets with a RDS, however, identify a real person from that far is impossible and I would not risk it unless I knew him to be hostile and or shooting at me.

[Failure2Stop]

I happened to go shooting this weekend, and I ran into a gentleman who had an ACOG TA01NSN. I asked him if it was OK to check out and look at some targets in the distance. He was even nice enough to let me have a few shots with it.

I really liked it, especially because it had the BDC and the eye relief didn't seem wonky like it can with traditional scopes.

Since I am more interested in shooting targets at this time (I can't really do run and gun shit; much less when I can't even drop mags in CA), I think I will just look around for an ACOG like this. It should fit my range needs nicely. I'm sure that if I even get to go to a carbine class or something, that I can find/borrow an aimpoint.

I think (but I'm not 100% sure about it) that I may have an astigmatism with my shooting eye anyway, and this isn't an issue with the ACOG).

I highly recommend a supplemental close range sighting system if going with one of the 4x ACOGs.
For what they are, I like the TA01 NSN the most of the 4x line, but they are absolutely a nightmare for close range work under real-world conditions.

[Koshinn]

I'll give you one advantage of a 1-4 @ 1x over a RDS - if you have astigmatism a RDS can give a fuzzy imprecise aiming point. a magnified optic will clear that up...

At the ranges you're shooting at 1x, will that fuzzyness matter?

[ra2bach]

At the ranges you're shooting at 1x, will that fuzzyness matter?

that's entirely up to you. what distance are you talking about? what degree of precision do you need?..

[rojocorsa]

I highly recommend a supplemental close range sighting system if going with one of the 4x ACOGs.
For what they are, I like the TA01 NSN the most of the 4x line, but they are absolutely a nightmare for close range work under real-world conditions.

When you say close range, what kind of distance are you talking about?

[Failure2Stop]

When you say close range, what kind of distance are you talking about?

3-50 meters, depending on lighting and movement.
Basically, under the conditions that one would be most concerned about getting all shot up in.

[rojocorsa]

3-50 meters, depending on lighting and movement.
Basically, under the conditions that one would be most concerned about getting all shot up in.

The guy who owned the ACOG I tried did admit to me that the "iron sights" it came with were garbage. I didn't really try them as I was interested in the glass.