FFP vs SFP in a 1-6/8 variable

[JoshNC]

I am curious as to folks thoughts on FFP vs SFP for a 1-6/8 variable. I am considering a Kahles k16i with either SM1 or SM2 mil-based reticles to use on a Knights ECC. Intended role is a GP rifle for 0-800m. Other contenders are the Bushnell 1-6.5 (FFP vs SFP), Bushnell 1-8.5 (FFP only), Leupy Mk6 1-6 with either 762 CMR-W or TMR reticle and Leupy CQBSS with H27.

I really like the DFP idea and if S&B ever gets their 1-8 Short Dot released and it proves reliable, that would likely be my ideal optic with the dot in SFP and H58 in FFP.

[ra2bach]

I am curious as to folks thoughts on FFP vs SFP for a 1-6/8 variable. I am considering a Kahles k16i with either SM1 or SM2 mil-based reticles to use on a Knights ECC. Intended role is a GP rifle for 0-800m. Other contenders are the Bushnell 1-6.5 (FFP vs SFP), Bushnell 1-8.5 (FFP only), Leupy Mk6 1-6 with either 762 CMR-W or TMR reticle and Leupy CQBSS with H27.

I really like the DFP idea and if S&B ever gets their 1-8 Short Dot released and it proves reliable, that would likely be my ideal optic with the dot in SFP and H58 in FFP.

my first reaction is anything less than about 5x, I would universally want a SFP. on my 2.5-10 FFP, it's kind of useless under 5x...

the one reservation to this is the SWFA 1-6 FFP which has a special reticle with a circle and MIL cross hair where on 1x you have a lit cross centered inside the circle but at 6x the circle expands completely out of view leaving just a mil reticle.

if this works as advertised, it's a pretty nice solution that uses the concept of FFP to enhance, rather than hinder, low power usage...

[sjc3081]

I am suffering from the same delema. I really like the Vortex II 1x6 but I don't know if the SFP is the best choice.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-HD-1-6x24-Ta...pe-P53845.aspx
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-1-65x24-Eli...pe-P51672.aspx
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-1-65x24-Eli...pe-P51673.aspx
http://swfa.com/Vortex-1-6x24-Razor-...pe-P55713.aspx
My use would be a 100 yard to 500 yard SHTF rifle.
The rifle it will be mounted on is a BCM Midlenght SS 1/8 with a SSA trigger.
No high jack intended, but maybe we both can benefit from your question.

[jwfuhrman]

After going thru 15 different 1-4's and 1-6's of various make and model, I have fallen in love with the Leupold Mark 6 1-6 with 5.56 CM-RW.

I have one on my 3gun rifle and have a second one coming for my Jack carbine build.

[sjc3081]

JW
Is there a difference between a multigun compitition scope and a battle scope. I recognize durability difference and capped turrets but what about things I don't know as far a ranging and reticle designs.

[jwfuhrman]

The Leupold Mark 6 was designed for a "battle" scope. Multigun competitors are just as hard on guns and gear as troops can be. Dumping guns in "drop barrels" on the run, slamming our gear around getting in and out of positions, our gear has to be just as durable.

The CM-RW 5.56 is FFP, at 1x it acts as a reddot, at 3x-6x it's an excellent ranging reticle.

[Alaskapopo]

I am curious as to folks thoughts on FFP vs SFP for a 1-6/8 variable. I am considering a Kahles k16i with either SM1 or SM2 mil-based reticles to use on a Knights ECC. Intended role is a GP rifle for 0-800m. Other contenders are the Bushnell 1-6.5 (FFP vs SFP), Bushnell 1-8.5 (FFP only), Leupy Mk6 1-6 with either 762 CMR-W or TMR reticle and Leupy CQBSS with H27.

I really like the DFP idea and if S&B ever gets their 1-8 Short Dot released and it proves reliable, that would likely be my ideal optic with the dot in SFP and H58 in FFP.

I think FFP is pretty useless below 6X. You won't find many scopes in the 1-6 1-8 range with FFP and a good daylight bright illumination. For this power range give me a SFP any day. Now for precision scopes from 10x and up give me FFP.
Pat

[shootist~]

Having a 1.5-6 with FFP, it's not worth the expense and even a detriment at low power.

[Failure2Stop]

I find it to be very reticle dependent.

[sjc3081]

I looked at the Mark 6 1x6, no capped turrets. That disqualified it.