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Thread: I'm driving myself nuts trying to decide on a centerfire rifle can.

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    Yea... We may have different criteria, but I had the same feelings when I was looking.

    I classed cans into a couple categories:

    Low end or unknown small mfg:
    Liberty
    YHM
    Thunderbeast
    Shark

    Mid-range:
    SAS
    Gemtech

    High end:
    AAC
    Surefire
    KAC
    SWR
    Silencerco

    Then eliminated anything that I wasn't sure would be around in 5 years. Anything that wasn't didn't have a good mount. And anything that I didn't feel had a price/performance ratio.

    I ended up with Surefire and SWR. AAC has already shown they too are not pleased with their own mount. KAC meets no price/performance ratio. And I didn't want a thread on or wait on more vaporware cans.

    I chose the surefire socom and having played with them I'm VERY glad I ponied up. These will be lifetime cans for me, I didn't want to **** around with some non-sense that would soon work it's way to the back of the safe.

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    I came to much the same conclusions that Noodles did, except I still allowed for thread-on cans, as long as I could find a way to prevent it from backing off with rapid fire. Weight quickly became one of my top considerations after being disappointed with my first rifle can, and AAC's 5.56 thread-on suppressors are a quarter pound lighter overall than otherwise comparable 5.56 Quick Attach cans.

    If you're set on a QA 7.62 can, I'll echo that Surefire's QA mounts are superior to AAC's. My personal opinion is that anything that wobbles on the end of the muzzle would noticeably affect accuracy of a long-range rifle. I think I'd go for the full-size Surefire, if you must have a QA 7.62 can.

    I'll throw in my usual suggestion to consider AAC's thread-on 5.56 cans if you're only going to shoot suppressed (I never shoot unsuppressed anymore, unless I can't attach a can). At around $500, you can probably afford to get it and then a 7.62 suppressor later, when you're ready to get into a precision rifle.

    The Ranger 2 can still be had if you ask around and the Ranger 3 might be out by the time you're ready to buy. You lose the flexibility of multiple calibers and quick attach/detach in exchange for a 15oz total weight while still retaining stainless and inconel construction and being capable of higher rates of fire than cans incorporating titanium.

    You have to degrease your threads and apply a generous amount of Rocksett every time you reattach a thread-on can. I remove mine with a strap wrench every few months for inspection and to clean the rifle's barrel, or after shooting in the rain. I store the Ranger 2 equipped rifle muzzle down in the safe and have no issues with corrosion.

    Don't forget to add in the extra weight of the mounts for the quick attach cans to get their total weight. It's usually an additional 4oz, as seen with the 21oz total for AAC's M4-2000 or 20oz for Surefire's 5.56 can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries144 View Post
    Don't forget to add in the extra weight of the mounts for the quick attach cans to get their total weight. It's usually an additional 4oz, as seen with the 21oz total for AAC's M4-2000 or 20oz for Surefire's 5.56 can.
    This is very true.


    The new surefire SOCOM flash hider and three washers weigh exactly 4oz.

    However, remember an A2 and crush washer weighs 2.15oz, you either way you are saving that. Things to keep in mind.

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    Good point on the mount weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdmiller View Post
    Same here but I am going to have to call AAC. A member on the ACR forum contacted AAC about the possibility of shooting 7mm Rem Mag through his SDN6 and was told by Mike Mers that it would be fine as long as the barrel length was at least 24". If I can shoot .300WM out of a 26" barrel through an SDN6, my decision is made.
    Yes I know I've brought this old thread back from the dead, but I was searching for the possibility of using my 762-SDN-6 suppressor on a custom built 7mm Rem mag 26" barrel.
    This is the best answer I found, but no surprise it is the epitome of he said, she said, I read it on the internet, it must be true.
    So I went ahead and asked AAC myself if it is doable.
    Adding to the he said she said, I'll share MY answer I got from AAC:

    That cartridge is too much pressure for that silencer. It could cause serious injury or death. You would have to step up to at least a 300 WIN MAG silencer.



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    Curious why you haven't considered the Saker 762? It is priced between the Surefire and Specwar and is cheeper than the SDN6 because a mount is included (for $900) and I have heard it has a better compression mount over ratchet style AAC 51t. Just a suggestion.

    -Saker 762: 7.5" 20.7oz, 137.7dB 308; 123.4dB 300blk; 134.6dB 556
    -Specwar 762: 9" 24oz 133.9dB .308, 120.4dB .300blk, 130.2dB 556
    -Socom 762: 8.4" 19.5oz, adds 6.2” ?dB
    -AAC 762 SDN-6: 7.66” 19.85oz, adds 6.1” -30dB

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    Well, since this thread is back from the dead I guess I'll update y'all.

    I ended up getting the 762 Specwar followed closely by the 556 Specwar, and both are fantastic.

    Will be getting the "K" model at some point too.

    Highly recommend the Specwar line.

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    Whoops, sorry, should have looked at the dates more closely.
    Have you measured poi shift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    Have you measured poi shift?
    no. I've zero'd with can on and only shoot with it attached.

    Right now I'm in a bit of a consolidation/rebuild mode with my ARs, so haven't done much rifle shooting lately.

    Once I get my SBR built I'll try to test it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtturn View Post
    Well, since this thread is back from the dead I guess I'll update y'all.

    I ended up getting the 762 Specwar followed closely by the 556 Specwar, and both are fantastic.

    Will be getting the "K" model at some point too.

    Highly recommend the Specwar line.

    Good to hear, I planned on ordering a Specwar 7.62 is the next couple weeks.
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