Police traffic stop firefight in Ohio

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Officers' patrol car


Suspect's weapons


Officers getting commendation for the shooting.

[Cincinnatus]

Are the windshield shots on the driver's side from the officer inside shooting out?

[NeoNeanderthal]

First of all…… HOLY SHIT tight groups!!!! That's incredible. Thanks for posting pictures of the windshield. After doing some research this is what i found:

Dude takes 19 gunshots, at the autopsy they take out 9 bullets. Male cop fired 29 Female fired 17. Bad guy fired 33 rounds out of an AK with a 40 round mag. All the bullets they took out of the bad guy were from the male cop- dunno if the other ten wounds were from the female cop or not. Female cop got shot once in the left hand and guy cop got some shrapnel or something in the leg.

I'm assuming female cop carried a glock 17 and did not reload, or the guy was dead by the time she got a new mag in?

Heard audio of perp yelling kill me, and someone saying "I've got a handgun." Right as the shooting concluded. I am assuming that this is the CCW holder.

[NeoNeanderthal]

PS- that female cop is a badass and easy on the eyes to boot. She had only been on duty for like a month before they got ambushed.

[Nocalsocal]

Does anybody have info what their duty load is? I'm only asking because the perp takes one to the stomach and then continues the attack. I know shot placement is king but I wonder if he would have pressed on if he took more bullets or a different load to the belly?

Great reactions and a good shoot.

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[The_War_Wagon]

Do-Do with a Death Wish. Can happen anywhere, anytime, & w/o warning...

[jmoore]

Can't access vid without signing in - which I don't do. Alternate source? TIA. John

[7.62WildBill]

http://video-embed.cleveland.com/ser...DQxGs6uqT6UiMm

Maybe this link will work.

Crazy situation, glad the good guys prevailed.

[HackerF15E]

So I wonder what mayhem he was going to cause with all that iron in his car.

Ordinarily I wouldn't say that, but the fact that he came out shootin' at a traffic stop AND had all those loaded mags on board makes it look like there was something stewing that was more than a dude with an AK and a bunch of loaded mags driving around minding his own business.

[TSiWRX]

Around the 0.36 mark of the video, a civilian witness with a CCW permit, is heard coming to the aid of the LEOs.

http://youtu.be/yid9qG30II8

Anyone have more information on this incident?

I also participate on the Ohioans for Concealed Carry Forums.

Your post is actually the first I've read of the armed citizen's offer to help - I had not noticed it before, despite having seen this video in other contexts.

I have not heard anything on the local news about a CCW holder coming to the officers aid, judging by the audio I think he showed up just after it was all over.

I haven't seen anything about that on the news, either.

It does seem to me that he showed up just as the shooting ended - nevertheless, good-on-him for coming to help, and for properly notifying.


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That was pretty crazy. Police did the right thing, however, I wonder if they will use their tragic experience to say why we "do not need assault weapons."

According to the text of this story:

http://www.news-herald.com/articles/...mode=fullstory , which was published on March 13th in The News-Herald, words would lead the reader to believe that Middlefield police chief Arnold Stanko is advocating for banning the AK-47, quoting the article:

He said weapons such as the one used should be off the streets.

OFCC discussion thread here: http://www.ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71241


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Are the windshield shots on the driver's side from the officer inside shooting out?

One of our OFCC Forum members had this to say - his son is a LEO in a nearby municipality:

My son talked to one of the officers from that dept. and those holes you see in the windshield that were a tight group, was from one of the officers.

I don't know that there's been any official confirmation of this, though.


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So I wonder what mayhem he was going to cause with all that iron in his car.

Ordinarily I wouldn't say that, but the fact that he came out shootin' at a traffic stop AND had all those loaded mags on board makes it look like there was something stewing that was more than a dude with an AK and a bunch of loaded mags driving around minding his own business.

It's hard not to wonder. I find myself in your shoes, too.

That said, there are several gun-ranges relatively close to that area, and recent revisions to Ohio laws - would mean that he could legally have had loaded long-gun magazines (as long as the weapon itself was not loaded, and also with some other stowage considerations), provided that he had a valid Ohio-CHL.

I'm not justifying his actions - just pointing out the obvious.