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    At least in the Army (Can't speak for the rest) there's levels of maintenance which equate to the level of weapon breakdown. 10, 20, and 30 level for the M4 weapon system. 10 is all user level, simply breaking apart the lower and upper and removing the bolt from the carrier is about it.

    20 level (which is unit armorer level stuff) doesn't add much to the 10 level: Removal of buttstock and rails, changing of optics is the only difference.

    Taking an armorers course from IraqGunz puts you at 30 level - which in the Army - is it's own MOS. I've only ran into a few 30 level certified guys in the Army. 30 level includes complete weapon disassemble, removal and change of barrel, trigger, stock assembly, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    So can most others. The torque wrench is only a small part of it. Apparently you have all the answers.
    Right, and that is why many people can and do build their own ARs every day.

    I never claimed to have all the answers. I only stated that it is very easy to build a rifle if you can read and own a torque wrench and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    This has been my concern with the Geissele block from the start. Even with the gas block being predrilled for pinning, it's not something that the home AR smith should undertake. It would still require the correct tools / jigs, drill press, etc. to ensure that the hole is drilled correctly through the barrel. If it HAS to be pinned, let ADCO or Rainier Arms do it for you.

    I recently took IG's class and it was an eye opener. I haven't had time to write up an AAR, but will as soon as I have a chance. Even for someone like myself who has built several rifles in the past, I still learned a ton. The best part was learning a few tricks & techniques that make certain steps way easier than I had been doing them. These are the sort of things that can only be learned by doing the same thing hundreds or thousands of times (like IG) or by taking a class from someone like him.

    I highly recommend his class. The "anybody can do it" mentality is the reason we see so many "I screwed up my perfectly good AR, please help me! " threads. To those that think anybody can do it, I would respond by saying, yes, but few can do it right.

    I have no doubt that you can learn to do it yourself. The fact that you stopped just to ask the question puts you leaps and bounds ahead of the average person.
    I've decided I'll send my parts off to adco to get the barrel work done. I'll do the rest myself. Baby steps. I've decided to take a course before I do the complete build myself. It's a much a case of wanting instant gratification to get the build done as a realization that I need time to collect the knowledge and tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Forget that AGI crap. Sign up for Iraqgunz's armorer's course.

    A deeper understanding of how/why/what of the system is much better than just the lego mentality.
    This. If you're going to spend money figuring out the build process, why settle for simply having a working firearm - get a full understanding of what's going on and why. That will serve you so much better.
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    Funny to watch the guy install the new ejector spring and he does it the wrong way. Considering Brownells sells the punches to do it right.

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    Does IG happen to travel around the US with his classes ? If so I would take one.

    This seems to be the biggest problem. Not many people offer classes or they are few and far between. I have built 3 rifles now and I know that I understand how to put one together, but I still have run into the bad LPK, which some are better than others.

    Don't skimp out on the proper tools when building and buy good parts to start with. It makes the assembly alot smoother. All of my knowledge comes from here and youtube vids, which there is a member here that has some good ones, and learning on my own. I have lots to learn still, but I do enjoy it.

    Having a spare LPK, buffers, springs, etc is a must. The worst thing about buying good parts is everything going together smoothly, only then when you run into a problem do you actually start to learn whats going on. I am refering to a double star lpk I bought, wheich was junk, but learned from that hee hee.

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    TOOLS TOOLS TOOLS, its the most important.

    Here is a cheap Torque Wrench:
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wm...FQ5p7Aod1XYAyA

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgjane View Post
    TOOLS TOOLS TOOLS, its the most important.

    Here is a cheap Torque Wrench:
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wm...FQ5p7Aod1XYAyA
    The problem with that torque wrench is that it is a 1/2 inch drive while most tools are 3/8 inch sockets.
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    I've put a couple of lowers together and they're pretty simple with the proper tools. I haven't done an upper yet. I'm pretty sure it wouldnt be a problem and I could do it but would I know the why's behind the how's? The how's and why's are what I really want to learn! I definitely want to take IG's Armorers course and hopefully he will come to NC soon.
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