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Thread: Do Extra Power Springs and Buffers Really Have the Same Effect?

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    Do Extra Power Springs and Buffers Really Have the Same Effect?

    Basically my question is...

    Is there any reason not to run, for example, a red Springco and carbine buffer instead of an H2/H3 and USGI spring to save weight?

    Im just wondering if there is anything else to consider.
    Any reliability concerns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saddlerocker View Post
    Basically my question is...

    Is there any reason not to run, for example, a red Springco and carbine buffer instead of an H2/H3 and USGI spring to save weight?

    Im just wondering if there is anything else to consider.
    Any reliability concerns?
    Yes. A gym membership.

    Oh, and not letting markm see this thread.


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    The above is hillarious. Markm might explain that anything using a nonstandard spring is rubbish.

    The rest of us might explain that you're taking about ounces of weight. Carry some ammo cans around the house once a day. You won't notice the buffer weight in a week or two.

    (As a disclaimer, I do run Springco Red, and H buffers in my Carbine gas systems.)
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    Ok serious answer...

    I don't have any hate for aftermarket springs, but I would personally rather stay with stock carbine springs. Mostly just for simplicity.

    If you're trying to tame recoil, buffers should work. The weight is negligible at best and *shouldn't* feel any different to the shooter, especially since it is at the rear of the gun. Also, there are some pretty good options for adjustable gas blocks now, such as the SYRAC.

    You didn't specify what you were trying to do and to what system, so I can't really be any more specific without making more assumptions than I already have.
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    I was going to add somthing about Markm in my post haha.

    Everyone is always trying to shave some weight, so I think its a legit question.

    My 11.5" SBR is rather ass-heavy, and apparently a bit overgassed. (DD Barrel)
    Im running an H3 and Blue Springco as it is, and it runs flawlessly with Wolf/Bear ammo unsuppressed
    I do run it suppressed a majority of the time.

    Just trying to possibly balance it out a bit.

    Plus my next build is going to be a 14.5" lightweight. Thinking about an ar15 carrier and a gas port insert or adjustable GB so I can run a carbine or H buffer with a Blue Springco

    Picking up my brothers stock Bushmaster M4 profile rifle is like night and day.
    My 16" gun has an optic (H1) and a Troy Alpha rail, but other than that the only weight difference should be from the M16 Carrier and H2 buffer. My MOE stock and grip might add an ounce or 2 over his standard equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saddlerocker View Post
    Everyone is always trying to shave some weight, so I think its a legit question.

    My 11.5" SBR is rather ass-heavy, and apparently a bit overgassed.
    Im running an H3 and Blue Springco as it is, and it runs flawlessly with Wolf/Bear ammo.
    And I run it suppressed a majority of the time.

    Just trying to possibly balance it out a bit.
    Ok with that out now, I would say an adjustable GB (especially with a suppressor) and an H2/H3 buffer with standard spring and call it a day.

    My setup is a suppressed 11.5" with H3/SYRAC/standard Carbine spring. Runs great and I can tune it to any ammo I want.

    Depending on what stock you have, you would probably be able to shave more weight there than with buffers, while not screwing with reliability...
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    I prefer to run Springco springs and the heaviest buffer I can that will allow my rifle/carbine/SBR to function. YMMV.



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    I would have sprung for an adjustable GB or insert already, but I have a URXII rail that requires I send it out for work (or buy a bunch of tools.) Which I should do, but Haven't decided what, if anything, I want to do.

    I run an IMOD stock btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I prefer to run Springco springs and the heaviest buffer I can that will allow my rifle/carbine/SBR to function. YMMV.
    Ok, but would you rather run a blue sprinco and H3, or or Red Springco and an H buffer?

    My thinking leads me toward using the heaviest buffer with a USGI spring, only if I feel I need more resistance will I upgrade the spring.
    But if going with a red springco and an H buffer saves some weight and there are no function/reliability concerns, why not

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    I generally run blue Springco's in carbines. I wouldn't be concerned about a little extra weight created by a buffer.

    Quote Originally Posted by saddlerocker View Post
    Ok, but would you rather run a blue sprinco and H3, or or Red Springco and an H buffer?

    My thinking leads me toward using the heaviest buffer with a USGI spring, only if I feel I need more resistance will I upgrade the spring.
    But if going with a red springco and an H buffer saves some weight and there are no function/reliability concerns, why not



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