BAD lever vs. weapons lights

[steyrman13]

The only x300 I played with, the guy had the DG switch on it.

Ive used the TLR1 and like it, plus SF's prices are stupid.



actually, looking at thier website, pressing inward activates the light, with is the closest motion to getting on the trigger.

but I like that.

I've had the tlr1 and the x300. I like them both with a win to the SF. I like the interaction of the switch better being that it activates the same on both sides. You can find a used one for around 90-120 usually which is around same price as new tlr1. I know still more expensive but...I like them better now

[glocktogo]

I don't know of anyone that uses their trigger finger to activate the WML. Using the support hand thumb allows you to press down on the left side, using the momentary function of the switch rather than constant on. Regardless, this is the best option as it allows the user to have the support hand free to manipulate other items, while also leaving the trigger finger free to do it's most critical function, manipulate the trigger.



The BAD lever is panned because the leverage it places on the bolt catch can induce malfunctions. That, not using the trigger finger to operate is the issue. I do have one on a game gun that has never caused a problem. It does speed up the rare remedial action and offers a faster empty gun reload.

[theblackknight]

So you compromise the source of most of your gripping power just to keep the trigger finger free? What difference in time do you guys see between the 2?

I'm sceptical to think that its that much faster for finger to go from frame index to trigger, then it is to go from the switch to trigger.

sent from mah gun,using my sights

[theblackknight]

That leverage problem is solved by using a serviceable spring.

So you compromise the source of most of your gripping power just to keep the trigger finger free? What difference in time do you guys see between the 2?

I'm sceptical to think that its that much faster for finger to go from frame index to trigger, then it is to go from the switch to trigger.

sent from mah gun



sent from mah gun,using my sights

[glocktogo]

So you compromise the source of most of your gripping power just to keep the trigger finger free? What difference in time do you guys see between the 2?

I'm sceptical to think that its that much faster for finger to go from frame index to trigger, then it is to go from the switch to trigger.

sent from mah gun,using my sights

I fail to comprehend your question. My grip is not at all compromised. I don't utilize a "crush grip". When shooting two handed, the off hand applies most of the grip. The dominant hand is more of a platform for the trigger finger. When shooting one handed, the DG switch allows you to fire with the light on or off, depending on pressure applied to the grip by the middle finger.

Let me ask you this. When using your trigger finger to manipulate the switch, how do you operate both the switch and the trigger at the same time?

[yellow50]

So you are firing your 1st shot before your support hand has a full grip on the pistol. That really dosent seem much better then using trigger finger. You are essentially only "training" for having both hands free. .

Being an LEO, when it is dark I already have a hand held light in my support hand, if I needed to take a fast shot I would do so with my handheld in my support hand. The pistol mounted light is not the be all end all, and while it has its drawbacks it also has its advantages.

[theblackknight]

Let me ask you this. When using your trigger finger to manipulate the switch, how do you operate both the switch and the trigger at the same time?

You dont, and why need to? If you search with a hand held so you're not muzzling everything you "paint" with the light, where is your pistol?

[C4IGrant]

I dont use the trigger finger to activate a pistol light. I use my support hand thumb.

Bingo.

Light is a NECESSITY! The BAD lever is not. Simple as that.



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[C4IGrant]

How exactly do you guys use the thumb?

Push FORWARD on the X300 switch (not down) for momentary.



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[C4IGrant]

I fail to comprehend your question. My grip is not at all compromised. I don't utilize a "crush grip". When shooting two handed, the off hand applies most of the grip. The dominant hand is more of a platform for the trigger finger. When shooting one handed, the DG switch allows you to fire with the light on or off, depending on pressure applied to the grip by the middle finger.

Let me ask you this. When using your trigger finger to manipulate the switch, how do you operate both the switch and the trigger at the same time?

Right. I run the DG switch as well. It is fantastic (especially when you only have one hand available.



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