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    Re: Trigger-less LPK: PSA or WOA?

    Have you looked at Brownells lately? They have individual parts if you want to piece something together or there are complete kits. As far as the smaller parts, you might be over thinking this. I'm not sure you'd notice any real significant difference between any of them. If the brand does matter to you, here is a Colt kit if you're interested: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts....aspx?psize=96

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    I bought a PSA kit. The takedown pins had a weird finish and one of them was defective. I had to use a pin out of another kit to replace it. I'd stay away from them.

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    Thanks for the reply mkmckinley. PSA's quality consistency (or lack there of) seems like it is going to keep me away from them. From what I've found in my searches, it seems like the vast majority of people are satisfied with them, but there is a notable percentage of customers who received sub-par parts, or kits missing parts, and it doesn't sound like PSA was very good about fixing the problems. I'm not willing to roll the dice with a company lacking good customer service.

    Does anyone have any semi-recent experience with the Stag/CMT kits? I've read Noveske used to use them in their lowers, but it doesn't sound like they do anymore. The Stag kit is $10 more than the WOA kit, for comparison.

    I guess I'm less concerned about the finish than I am about ensuring that quality raw materials were used and the parts were machined to the correct specs. I will probably end up sending the major components off for nitriding anyway.

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    i bought a triggerless PSA LPK + ACT Trigger. Works fine, never had a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkmckinley View Post
    I bought a PSA kit. The takedown pins had a weird finish and one of them was defective. I had to use a pin out of another kit to replace it. I'd stay away from them.
    I've used seven of the PSA kits and never had a bad part. so what does that say about your experience? pretty much nothing as neither of our experiences is significant...

    I've used DD, PSA and CMT/Stag and can't really tell much difference (excluding fire controlgroups). it may be that one pin or spring is better than another but my feeling is that as long as things are in spec, these are small parts, subject to wear with admin maintenance interval. get what's available, get spares, keep up with maintenance...
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    Dude, get the colt LPK! You know you want to.

    http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts....aspx?psize=96
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    Hell, one of the members here got a bad take down pin in a Daniel Defense kit and it wasn't a finish issue. The stupid thing was made too short.

    I've used two DD kits and three PSA kits within the last year. Honestly, you really couldn't tell a difference in them. The hammers actually had the same casting stamps.

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    I have a couple of the Brownells Colt kits. Last I looked they weren't available. I would put together parts from Brownells or SAW.

    I ordered a PSA pistol tube for a pending SBR build waited a few weeks then ordered a Phase 5 ... received the phase 5 first. Did it for me.

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    I think just about any LPK out there "works". I only used a PSA kit once, and it was missing two parts (the screw for the MOE trigger guard and a detent). Apparently it happens pretty regularly based on what I've seen on forums. There customer service answered all of my emails promptly, however they never actually sent the replacement parts. I finally gave up and sourced my own.

    So that is something to consider. Assuming you receive all of the parts, the kit will work fine. I did find the PSA selector to be a good bit squishier/sloppier than every other parts kit I've used though. All said and done I have and will continue to use other LPKs since. Although the difference may be minor, I'll pay the extra $5-10 for something that works well vs. something that just works.

    I do have a build planned using a Geissele trigger, so I am interested in hearing reports on the WOA kit as I was just looking at those.
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    I have used 2 PSA kits and they both work/fit fine.

    The trigger on the first one, bought spring 2012, is cleaner than my ALG ACT.

    The second kit I bought was trigger-less.

    The price and ability to get the MOE Grip and trigger guard make it too hard to pass up the PSA kits.
    Last edited by saddlerocker; 05-27-13 at 20:53.

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