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    Fake ads on Armslist?

    So I'm trying to source a POF 308 16in for a buddy of mine. Hopped onto Armslist.com to see what was available. I see them going for about $2500 which seems to be the norm if bought from an authorized dealer online.

    I came across a lot of ads for the rifle below $2000 with locations in NY, NJ, NC, and WY. First off the locations raise a red flag for me but then I see the NC and WY. I emailed all 4 ads asking for more pictures, if they were a FFL, and possible do a FTF for the North Carolina one with my buddy.

    Is this normal? I don't go on Armslist.com makes me want to stick to gunbroker if wanting to pay MSRP

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    1) how does armslist vet..
    2) too good to be true...

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    I had a local FFL warn me about Armslist not too long ago, it seems fake ads aren't too uncommon there. He even told me that someone got a hold of his FFL info a while back ago and tried selling under his name.

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    I've had both experiences on there. In the last two months I've purchased a great Noveske lower with all the bells and whistles and a Springfield TRP, both shipped from out of state. Along the way I ran into a lot of scammers but they are pretty easy to spot IMO. Ask a ton of questions, get their name and all contact info up front and have them ship from an FFL that you can verify. Once firearm is sitting at their FFL and I qualify that, then I send $$. Never send MO to some random address. I send discreet Paypal for all those transactions.

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    I know what you mean, for jokes I was looking around armslist to see what stupid guns were still going to stupid prices, found a KSG for $3000... Now, judging by the pictures I want to say "real", but almost too perfect, so I'm thinking "fake, but really good!"

    KSG on ARMSLIST

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodles View Post
    Now, judging by the pictures I want to say "real", but almost too perfect, so I'm thinking "fake, but really good!"

    KSG on ARMSLIST
    Certainly looks fake to me. But I would have to perform a detailed examination to be positive.
    Last edited by Grand58742; 06-01-13 at 12:43.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    Certainly looks fake to me. But I would have to perform a detailed examination to be positive.
    I'm no armorer for that model, but I know a thing or two about field stripping and what oil to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C45P312 View Post
    So I'm trying to source a POF 308 16in for a buddy of mine. Hopped onto Armslist.com to see what was available. I see them going for about $2500 which seems to be the norm if bought from an authorized dealer online.

    I came across a lot of ads for the rifle below $2000 with locations in NY, NJ, NC, and WY. First off the locations raise a red flag for me but then I see the NC and WY. I emailed all 4 ads asking for more pictures, if they were a FFL, and possible do a FTF for the North Carolina one with my buddy.

    Is this normal? I don't go on Armslist.com makes me want to stick to gunbroker if wanting to pay MSRP
    To answer the original question, sometimes you get good deals, but I almost flat refuse to buy from other states and deal with an unknown FFL. I will sell out of state, but rarely buy. Kind of hypocritical, but I'm okay as long as I get the funds in advance.

    Otherwise, I do F2F transfers on anything I find on Armslist. But also take precautions when I do. Meet in a public place that's well lit or during daytime, have big dog along with me, CCW and never have the cash on my person until the transaction is done.

    Just some common sense precautions and it's generally no problem. But again, I refuse to do anything but face to face unless I know the person or I'm getting it shipped in from a dealer.
    Last edited by Grand58742; 06-01-13 at 13:10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uglyducky View Post
    I've had both experiences on there. In the last two months I've purchased a great Noveske lower with all the bells and whistles and a Springfield TRP, both shipped from out of state. Along the way I ran into a lot of scammers but they are pretty easy to spot IMO. Ask a ton of questions, get their name and all contact info up front and have them ship from an FFL that you can verify. Once firearm is sitting at their FFL and I qualify that, then I send $$. Never send MO to some random address. I send discreet Paypal for all those transactions.
    Sound advice. I'm looking at an item on another board and have some doubts. He's new to the board, low post count, add verbiage does not inspire confidence.
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    If it involves money there are some people that will try and take advantage. One that's been going around lately is a Chicomm NDM-86 (Chinese Dragunov) for ~$2k-$3k. Always wants to do a MO, no local inspection etc. Several guys have been burned already.

    Always buy local on Armslist. Always inspect in person.
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