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    Quote Originally Posted by HighDesert View Post
    Don't fool yourself - you will most likely not ever notice the difference in accuracy.

    ETA - dont mean to be an asshole, but unless you are a seasoned bench rest shooter using match grade ammo and match barrel, its just not going to be worth the cash for anything but cool factor.
    I have noticed a difference and I am an ok shot with factory ammo. And with all the great FF rails out there, there's really no reason to not FF. Its only a plus...

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    yeah for my last build just about everybody told me to go free float because it truly helps

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    If you want a free float rail that doesn't require any modifications to your carbine then buy the Troy/VTAC Delta rail. It's a two peice extended free float rail that requires no mods to your carbine.
    Last edited by Berserkr556; 06-02-13 at 10:51.

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    if i were to do that it would put me over 700$ so i might as well just get the pre installed rail of my choice at that point.

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    I'm not saying don't get a free float tube, I'm saying get the MOEs first as they are very affordable and will get you shooting sooner. Shooting the rifle will let you figure out what free float tube will work for you. If you've got long arms, you may want to go with a longer hand guard than anticipated but you won't know for certain until you get out & shoot
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    Gettin a new upper

    You're going to need a rear sight. And if you go with a LPGB you'll need a front sight as well.

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    yeah I understand but I'm in no real hurry to shoot it. I've got another upper already. I'm not going to rush into buying irons for this because I have a scope I'm going to mount on this one and its just for shooting targets. It's not that I don't have the money for a nice rail and have to save for it, I just can't justify a weeks pay for a handguard. So I'm looking at a budget of less than 300$ since I can get a BCM with a pre installed MI handguard for that.

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    You supposedly already have a Palmetto State upper that most on here will say is good to go. May not have the longevity or establishment that BCM, DD, Noveske or Colt has, but they are still relatively new to the market but the few problems thus far (excluding their shipping) have sorted themselves out to the customer's satisfaction. Anyway, they have FN barrels some of which are hammer forged depending on if that was specified when you bought it, the BCGs are typically made of the proper materials, most are properly staked and the majority of them are HPT/MPI...

    Why not shoot the shit out of what you have and spend your money on ammo, mags and learn what makes that weapon go? Or spend far less in modifying the upper you have in hand already?

    I must be strange, but I don't see the need to rush out and buy something new just because of the roll mark on it when you already have something that is generally regarded as acceptable for your admitted weekend plinker. If you owned an Olympic Arms this would be a different conversation, but PSA gets good marks by those that own them and the few reviews on here are mainly positive.

    Now, I'm about to be a dick here...from your previous posts, I get the feeling you really have no idea what you want, but want a BCM with a FF handguard because, well, it's a BCM with a FF handguard. I'm not putting down BCM as I own a couple myself and it's a damn fine rifle. Is it better than Palmetto? Not my place to judge as I've shot both and both worked in my experience. But being a college student so recently out of high school...

    Quote Originally Posted by cthompson36 View Post
    I think you should be able to do it yourself too. watch videos, maybe get a book, and you'll be good to go. Im in highschool and I just finished mine friday. What all are you trying to build? assemble a lower or the whole gun?
    I'm wondering if you know what you really want or know what you need at this point. Is that a dick question? Yeah, but you tend to bounce around ideas as much as my girlfriend changes her mind about the kitchen decor.

    (which does beg another dick question on how exactly you are working on a Masters Degree when you were in high school just last year, but another topic, another thread)

    So you are working on a limited budget and you have to look at using what you have as opposed to what you want. I know I had no freakin clue what I wanted at your age besides what looked cool and didn't give two shits about knowing how to run my carbine hard. I've since wised up and figured what works best for me as well as maximizing the efficiency of my BCM, DD and (former) PSA. I spent a lot of money thinking I needed the coolest new toys before trying to figure out if it would be best for me.

    My advice, FWIW, save your pennies now or better yet spend it on ammo, mags and a training class, burn out that barrel on that standard PSA with your Yankee Hill hand guard learning how to work the carbine to the best of your ability and then upgrade as money permits and you figure out what works best for you. Don't spend money on things you don't know of yet until you toss a few hundred rounds rounds downrange and have the ability to say with certainty you absolutely abhor the idea of standard length carbine rails.

    Take it for what it's worth...
    Last edited by Grand58742; 06-02-13 at 18:41.
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    My brother uses my account too so thats the masters degree part. My brother and I both bought PSA's last summer for fun guns, and our parents got us scopes for them at Christmas, even though we both had optics already so we both are kind of looking into new uppers to put the scopes on and reach out a little further. as far as a desire for another upper it is so I can have one with a RDS for closer range and one with a scope for further range. its nothing to do with replacing the palmetto, its just getting another and since BCM is only a little more expensive i figured id just splurge and get the best. My Palmetto state upper will be the red dot one since it's probably of lesser quality, I wont notice the accuracy being less at a closer range while the BCM is for further ranges. Also the palmetto upper I've been using with a .22 conversion kit just because neighbors complain about the sound more with .223. I do know I want a longer rail because my brothers PSA has a carbine rail on it and its too short for me to shoot comfortable while mines a middy and i like it much better.
    Last edited by cthompson36; 06-02-13 at 19:23. Reason: spelling

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