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    The vast majority of AR owners leave it 100% stock because it'll sit in the closet for years between single magazine dumps. Others will end up on Tapco and CAA mailing lists, and the itch will be irresistible. Then a few, who actually shoot their rifles with some degree of seriousness in training, will subtract everything that's not needed, add only what's needed. Even for a lot of these guys, this STILL means leaving the rifle totally stock.

    So upgrades are absolutely not necessarily necessary. If you're standing up, you need a reason to sit down. If you're sitting, you need a reason to stand. Right? In the absence of a good reason to change, do not change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SW-Shooter View Post
    When I buy a complete AR, or even build one from parts; I change the trigger, safety, stock, grip, rail system, buffer and spring, charging handle, BUIS or sight system, and maybe an optic
    I guess my question would be why not buy a complete AR with all the upgrades in the first place, or just build up from a stripped lower? After you've spent the money adding all upgrades it'll come out to about the same amount you would've spent on a rifle with most of the stuff you want on/in it. When I got my SR-15 I knew there would be very few modifications done to the rifle because it was pretty much good to go straight out of the box. The stock A2 grip had to go as well as replacing the bird cage with a suppressor mount. Added a LPV optic and 45 degree off-sets, which are pretty much all I wanted to effectively employ the carbine. I consider slings, rail covers, sling mounts, scope covers, etc. luxury accessories that are nice to have but do little to nothing to enhance the performance of the rifle.
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    Re: Evolving Cost Of Owning An AR

    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    I guess my question would be why not buy a complete AR with all the upgrades in the first place, or just build up from a stripped lower? After you've spent the money adding all upgrades it'll come out to about the same amount you would've spent on a rifle with most of the stuff you want on/in it. When I got my SR-15 I knew there would be very few modifications done to the rifle because it was pretty much good to go straight out of the box. The stock A2 grip had to go as well as replacing the bird cage with a suppressor mount. Added a LPV optic and 45 degree off-sets, which are pretty much all I wanted to effectively employ the carbine. I consider slings, rail covers, sling mounts, scope covers, etc. luxury accessories that are nice to have but do little to nothing to enhance the performance of the rifle.
    For some folks its easier to spend $1200 then upgrade as they go many times selling take off parts to cover part of the cost of the upgrades. Then there's those who need to try a few different things to figure out what works for them. I've got several AR's with $2k+ in them which was spent over time rather than as a lump sum. I happen to like the SR15 configuration but don't have the dough to drop $2k+ all at once.

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    Re: Evolving Cost Of Owning An AR

    I currently have four and a half ARs in the stable and have owned more. The majority of my rifles I already build a certain way and have a certain setup. I could by a rifle and leave it pretty much intact if it came the way I want it. Luckly for me the way I want it is pretty much factory choices.

    Do I customize my rifles? Yes, I do but I don't go crazy by dropping serious coin because the majority of my changes are simple accessories and not major overhuals. Only one rifle is a major rework and that is my SBR. Everything else is a build I did out of quality parts on the same style and layout.

    I don't buy rifles whole mostly because I can build what I want what the factory would offer anyways for a cheaper price. I try to keep my costs down and that by already going through the what works.what doesn't stage a long time ago. Sure, some of my style might be outdtated a little but I'll stick with it. I ike it and it works for me for the majority of what I want.
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    The reason I went with an AR was because of the custom options. Since I assembled my own from parts, though, there was nothing cast aside and it wasn't particularly expensive. The only thing I changed my mind about was a front vertical grip, but that's the sort of thing you just have to try to see if it works for you or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoo95 View Post
    For some folks its easier to spend $1200 then upgrade as they go many times selling take off parts to cover part of the cost of the upgrades. Then there's those who need to try a few different things to figure out what works for them. I've got several AR's with $2k+ in them which was spent over time rather than as a lump sum. I happen to like the SR15 configuration but don't have the dough to drop $2k+ all at once.
    That's why I suggested buying a stripped lower and building up from there. I get that some people just don't have the disposable income to drop $1500+ all at once for a quality AR with "upgrades" pre-installed. But why spend the money on a complete AR you plan to strip of the stock components off of anyway? And if we're talking stock A2 type components (trigger, pistol grip, flash hider, handguards, buttstock, etc), you're not going to make much money to off-set the cost for the replacement parts. Just buy the components you want seperately and spread it out for however long your budget allows. More economical, makes more sense and it's less shit to deal with. Now if a person is new to ARs I can understand buying a low cost basic carbine. From there they may decide that they want to upgrade and that's okay. But if you're a habitual cheap AR buyer and the first thing you do when you bring the rifle home is strip off all the stock components and upgrade, well then I think it makes more sense to just build from scratch in the first place. To each his own.

    EDIT: I should add that I did install a Raptor CH in the SR-15 to make it a more complete ambi carbine.
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    Re: Evolving Cost Of Owning An AR

    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    That's why I suggested buying a stripped lower and building up from there. I get that some people just don't have the disposable income to drop $1500+ all at once for a quality AR with "upgrades" pre-installed. But why spend the money on a complete AR you plan to strip of the stock components off of anyway? And if we're talking stock A2 type components (trigger, pistol grip, flash hider, handguards, buttstock, etc), you're not going to make much money to off-set the cost for the replacement parts. Just buy the components you want seperately and spread it out for however long your budget allows. More economical, makes more sense and it's less shit to deal with. Now if a person is new to ARs I can understand buying a low cost basic carbine. From there they may decide that they want to upgrade and that's okay. But if you're a habitual cheap AR buyer and the first thing you do when you bring the rifle home is strip off all the stock components and upgrade, well then I think it makes more sense to just build from scratch in the first place. To each his own.

    EDIT: I should add that I did install a Raptor CH in the SR-15 to make it a more complete ambi carbine.
    Yeah I wasnt disagreeing with you on building up from scratch. I actually prefer to build my own and have been for quite some time now. But I do recognize that some folks simply don't have the mechanical aptitude to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoo95 View Post
    Yeah I wasnt disagreeing with you on building up from scratch. I actually prefer to build my own and have been for quite some time now. But I do recognize that some folks simply don't have the mechanical aptitude to do that.
    Or lack of sense, as evidenced in this thread.
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    Re: Evolving Cost Of Owning An AR

    LOL, I was trying to say that in a nice way

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    Only thing I usually add would be an optic, muzzlebrake,longer handguard if the rifle doesn't come with it and a single point sling attachment. I leave pretty much everything else alone that would affect the rifles reliability

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