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    Am I to understand that AR's don't hold up as well as say my Glock 19?

    I've put thousands of rounds downrange with zero need to change, replace or repair anything. Feed it ammo and it just keeps working and working and working...

    On another note: You can't force an aptitude you don't have. I remember 8th grade shop and I was the worst student of all of us, though the teacher was kind and didn't hold up my project for the ridicule it so richly deserved.

    I do realize those with mechanical aptitude finding anyone without such as difficult as a fish trying to imagine fire, but there it is...

    As for trigger control, I have that, even with crappy triggers. As a younger guy, I was a great shot and now merely a good utility shooter, but still adequate enough to get the job done with either pistol or rifle.

    Insisting rifle owners all essentially be amateur gunsmiths is rather like insisting one has to be an auto mechanic if one drives/owns a vehicle.

    Am I arguing for my own incompetence? Ah, yeah, I am... What did one of Clint Eastwood's characters say in one of his movies: "A man's gotta know his limitations" - and I know mine.

    Hell, I can drive a nail, but don't ask me to remove a roll pin with a spring behind it or do anything requiring small tool motor skills. Ask me to fell a tree and I'm your guy. I even enjoy that kind of work!

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    But, but...I NEED my tactical bottle opener!



    Quote Originally Posted by ReRun View Post
    Look, I'm gonna level with you. Magpul is a gateway upgrade, it starts with a handguard, maybe a BAD lever. Next thing you know, your visiting Larue while your up late at night, Giessele packages showing up at your door and suddenly your posting YouTube vids and pics of your mods. You'll call them "reviews" but really they're just cries for help.

    Eventually, you'll need an intervention to realize that mods aren't the answer. Ammo is. And you'll discard about $800 of stuff to mall ninjas on Craigslist.

    Maybe we should do a scared straight video for needless AR mods for new owners?



    Btw- not saying anything bad about the brands above, they are all top notch. Lights, sights and slings! Anything else is personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReRun View Post
    Look, I'm gonna level with you. Magpul is a gateway upgrade, it starts with a handguard, maybe a BAD lever. Next thing you know, your visiting Larue while your up late at night, Giessele packages showing up at your door and suddenly your posting YouTube vids and pics of your mods. You'll call them "reviews" but really they're just cries for help.
    Lol, I'm loving this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    Am I to understand that AR's don't hold up as well as say my Glock 19?

    I've put thousands of rounds downrange with zero need to change, replace or repair anything. Feed it ammo and it just keeps working and working and working...

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    Insisting rifle owners all essentially be amateur gunsmiths is rather like insisting one has to be an auto mechanic if one drives/owns a vehicle.
    A basic AR that's properly built with quality parts will hold up well against your Glock example. Just a squirt of CLP on the bolt and BCG every 2000 round and it'll easily run for 10k rounds.

    Much like cars, firearms have maintenance parts requiring replacement every so many thousand rounds. If you don't have the aptitude to replace them, take it to a gun-smith and pay extra for the labor.

    You don't have to become a gun-smith, but if you plan to depend your life on a firearm, knowing how to maintain and inspect your tool would be a good thing. I think this would hold true for any drivers who depend on their cars to keep them alive.

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    Sidia

    We agree completely.

    I'm a big fan of maintenance, cuz it's (whatever it may be) less likely to break, fall apart or just plain not work well without regular maintenance.

    I make certain to either have an expert take care of it and pay the piper, as in my vehicles. Or, when it comes to firearms, those're the one thing I do take care of myself.

    Now, I gotta go chop out a Camphor tree stump. Had to cut it down as it was threatening my fence. I had to have a fence installed as my yard was regularly being plowed up by feral pigs.

    Oh, the two I've killed were taken with head shots in my back yard shooting from my back porch. Shot them with a .17 cal HMR Savage bolt gun. Both DRT. One shot a piece. For them, I use FMJ's for better bone penetration. They're mmmhh, mmmmh good eatin...but, I digress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    Oh, the two I've killed were taken with head shots in my back yard shooting from my back porch. Shot them with a .17 cal HMR Savage bolt gun. Both DRT. One shot a piece. For them, I use FMJ's for better bone penetration. They're mmmhh, mmmmh good eatin...but, I digress.
    Impressive!

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    OP, the only cost of owning a quality ar is ammo. My bro is like your worried about... he shoots 3x a year, and changes shit 10x a year.

    Get a solid gun (bcm.colt, blahblah...) and shoot it and get good. When you find that hardware mods will improve your shooting, go for it. Stocks would be the last thing id change, and the thing I see people go through the most.

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    MegademiC,

    Thanks!

    I appreciate the advice.

    That's what I ultimately plan to do.

    Plus, I want to keep it light. Once I buy my AR, I'm going to start off with no mods. Unless, a mod means lighter and if so, that I'll consider, later...

    I'd hate to start with something fat-free and end with something weighing in more than my old M-14. Which was a great gun, but it's weight was like an albatross around my neck.

    I see a lot of folks hang lights on their AR's and wonder how often they practice at night using a light?

    A lot?

    Ever?

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    A light is actually something id would highly suggest if you plan on using it for HD... if not - forget about it (just my opinion). They can be cheap and light.

    I tapcoed the crap outta my ak, and now its back to stock, probably wasted a couple hundred $ all together.

    For the ar, I wised up a little (i think) and kept it stock other than a different pistol grip... I then built the following rifle, "mods" would be the rail(better control and benefits of FF but still light and when you factor in the front sight, its one of the cheapest), RDS (primary arms to see how i like it and) which is gonna be replaced by a quality 1-4x to be used for everything including coyote and hog hunting, sling, and light since it would be used for defense inside the home and training.

    Point is, there is lot of ways to rice up a civic, but you dont have to spend a bunch of money ricing out your car just because its a civic.

    Hope this helps and makes some sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    Am I to understand that AR's don't hold up as well as say my Glock 19?
    I have 2 ARs that are just as reliable as my older Gen3 G19. That's with using steel cased, Russian ammo in all three and not cleaning very much.
    Last edited by Littlelebowski; 06-15-13 at 19:47.

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