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    Quote Originally Posted by whiterabbit05 View Post
    Your link just made me throw up. Just when I thought it could not get any more twisted...

    Cracker: stands for "police"

    Cracker: also stands for someone who "cracked the whip" during the slave era

    Guess you do learn something new everyday!
    That is something that just gets my goat. (Not against you Whiterabbit, the media)

    Who cares what it "means"? It is how the word is used that is the problem.

    "WOP" means With Out Papers, referring to Italian Immigrants that didn't have their immigration papers. But when it is used in a demeaning racially charged way it is a slur.

    "Nigger" is a poorly pronounced version of Negro. Which is just a description of skin color. But when it is used demeaning racially charged way it is a slur.

    "Faggot" is a term for a piece of wood. When it is used to denote a person's sexual orientation it is a slur.

    "Bananna" is a term for a piece of fruit. When it is used to describe an Asian person it means Asian on the outside but Caucasian on the inside which is a slur.

    "Cracker" actually has several meanings. From a group of farmers in Florida to a reference to poor whites having to eat cracked corn. When it is used in the phrase "Creepy Ass Cracka" it is not a descriptive term it is a racial slur just like all the rest.

    I could go on and on.

    It sickens me that we are doing anything other than DEMANDING as a society that hate speech is wrong, regardless of who utters the slur.

    The media and everyone else should be treating the word "Cracker" the same way as all the other hate speech that is out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow Hunter View Post
    The media and everyone else should be treating the word "Cracker" the same way as all the other hate speech that is out there.
    Why would they want to do that? It doesn't fit their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow Hunter View Post
    "Nigger" is a poorly pronounced version of Negro. Which is just a description of skin color. But when it is used demeaning racially charged way it is a slur.
    And what are we of Spanish ancestry supposed to do when we try to describe a black man in our native tongue? Black = negro. Maybe we're OK because it's pronounced nehgro in Castillian instead of neegro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow Hunter View Post
    That is something that just gets my goat. (Not against you Whiterabbit, the media)

    Who cares what it "means"? It is how the word is used that is the problem.

    "WOP" means With Out Papers, referring to Italian Immigrants that didn't have their immigration papers. But when it is used in a demeaning racially charged way it is a slur.

    "Nigger" is a poorly pronounced version of Negro. Which is just a description of skin color. But when it is used demeaning racially charged way it is a slur.

    "Faggot" is a term for a piece of wood. When it is used to denote a person's sexual orientation it is a slur.

    "Bananna" is a term for a piece of fruit. When it is used to describe an Asian person it means Asian on the outside but Caucasian on the inside which is a slur.

    "Cracker" actually has several meanings. From a group of farmers in Florida to a reference to poor whites having to eat cracked corn. When it is used in the phrase "Creepy Ass Cracka" it is not a descriptive term it is a racial slur just like all the rest.

    I could go on and on.

    It sickens me that we are doing anything other than DEMANDING as a society that hate speech is wrong, regardless of who utters the slur.

    The media and everyone else should be treating the word "Cracker" the same way as all the other hate speech that is out there.
    You forgot the lovely terms 'oreo' and 'M&M'.

    M&M: A white person who acts black (see also: Eminem)
    Oreo: A normal, middle-class black American (or someone who "acts white" but "is black")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjallhrafn View Post
    You forgot the lovely terms 'oreo' and 'M&M'.

    M&M: A white person who acts black (see also: Eminem)
    Oreo: A normal, middle-class black American (or someone who "acts white" but "is black")
    In the Latino culture down here they call them coconuts, white on the inside brown on the outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow Hunter View Post
    That is something that just gets my goat. (Not against you Whiterabbit, the media)

    Who cares what it "means"? It is how the word is used that is the problem.

    "WOP" means With Out Papers, referring to Italian Immigrants that didn't have their immigration papers. But when it is used in a demeaning racially charged way it is a slur.

    "Nigger" is a poorly pronounced version of Negro. Which is just a description of skin color. But when it is used demeaning racially charged way it is a slur.

    "Faggot" is a term for a piece of wood. When it is used to denote a person's sexual orientation it is a slur.

    "Bananna" is a term for a piece of fruit. When it is used to describe an Asian person it means Asian on the outside but Caucasian on the inside which is a slur.

    "Cracker" actually has several meanings. From a group of farmers in Florida to a reference to poor whites having to eat cracked corn. When it is used in the phrase "Creepy Ass Cracka" it is not a descriptive term it is a racial slur just like all the rest.

    I could go on and on.

    It sickens me that we are doing anything other than DEMANDING as a society that hate speech is wrong, regardless of who utters the slur.

    The media and everyone else should be treating the word "Cracker" the same way as all the other hate speech that is out there.
    All that to miss the point the article was making, which is that what may have actually happened is an attempt to beat up (possibly kill) what Martin may have been led to suspect (by Jeantel) was a homosexual predator. My how that turns the tables on the media and the event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feedramp View Post
    All that to miss the point the article was making, which is that what may have actually happened is an attempt to beat up (possibly kill) what Martin may have been led to suspect (by Jeantel) was a homosexual predator. My how that turns the tables on the media and the event.
    No shit, so by the star witness's own words Trayvon Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy-azz-cracka".

    Creppy ass = male homosexual
    Cracker = white person

    So in review Trayvon Martin was in fact a racist homophobe, that's like two times the profiling! Where is the media?! Where is the lesbian, gay, bi, transgender community!? Where is NAMBLA?! Where is the ACLU?!

    Oh the humanity of it all . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by feedramp View Post
    All that to miss the point the article was making, which is that what may have actually happened is an attempt to beat up (possibly kill) what Martin may have been led to suspect (by Jeantel) was a homosexual predator. My how that turns the tables on the media and the event.
    I didn't miss the "point" the article was making.

    I saw the logical leap that Rush made. I think it is very large leap. But honestly not much more of a logical leap than than the MSM trying to turn this into a racially based murder case.

    I was referring to the fact that the MSM is doing everything to downplay/redirect the racist slurs by even trying to "explain" them by showing their innocuous roots. All slurs have innocuous roots just as all stereotypes have a marginal basis in fact. That doesn't mean that they are any less harmful or hurtful to the members of that group.

    Controlling the language is key to controlling the argument. As long as it is PC to be racist towards one group but not others, racism will continue to be institutionalized. Just like the language was changed such that "Nigger" became a verboten word, so should all words used in the context of a racial slur, regardless of who it is directed towards.

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    I just got a spam email from the ACLU about the case. Read it and tell me what you think. Personally, I can't believe that a "leader" of this organization is sending out emails like this. I read that she is putting race in front of people on purpose, ex: introducing herself to neighbors. Is this how people talk and act? Seriously? I would also like to point out that I am one of those coconuts mentioned above. I don't understand how this person is trying to call out for equality by exemplifying the one thing they don't want to be seen as. Hypocrisy at its best.

    When I was a kid, I tried pulling the race card. My dad stopped that shit in its tracks and said "That is not it. People don't look at the color of your skin, but at the actions that you do or do not do. Don't ever make things about race." (I was pissing my teacher off at school). It taught me a very important lesson: people will play any card they can, but unless they are shut down and taught that it is the wrong card, then they will keep doing it over and over again. I don't think a lot of people have been taught that this is a unacceptable argument path and keep trying to play the race card.

    Dear xxxxxxxxxx,

    When I learned that George Zimmerman was found "not guilty" for the murder of Trayvon Martin, my heart immediately went out to his mother.

    Trayvon's mother is living my worst fear—of what can happen to my own 23-year-old black son because of the color of his skin.

    I've had to teach my son how his racial identity can be an invitation to scorn and mistreatment. I even announced his return from boarding school to neighbors once, to be safe: "Don't be alarmed if you see a black kid walking around; he's my son and he lives here."

    From being stopped in the streets without cause to the way police handle cases—for the accused and for victims like Trayvon—countless Americans are racially profiled every day.

    Racial profiling violates our Constitution and American values—and sends dangerous signals to people like George Zimmerman. If we're to prevent more tragedies like Trayvon, we must tackle the racial bias that undermines our justice system.

    The End Racial Profiling Act, currently in Congress, would help make clear that people should be judged by what they do, not the color of their skin.

    Please sign the petition now urging Congress to pass the End Racial Profiling Act and put a stop to racial bias in law enforcement.

    Here's just some of what the End Racial Profiling Act would do to clean up our justice system:
    Prohibit racial profiling in law enforcement, backed by a private right of action.
    Mandate law enforcement training on racial profiling, as well as data collection.
    Make law enforcement funding contingent on effective policies that prohibit profiling.
    The Zimmerman verdict has sparked a national conversation—now we need to turn that into action. Because unless Americans work together to end the practice of racial profiling, the precautions I and many other parents of color take will never be enough.

    Please sign the petition now urging Congress to pass the End Racial Profiling Act.

    As Americans try to make sense of the Zimmerman verdict and people ask what “justice” really means for people of color in our system, I feel that we must use this opportunity to acknowledge the real ways that racial bias plays out in society.

    Passing a law to eradicate racial profiling from law enforcement would be a step towards creating a more just justice system.

    Thank you,
    Laura Murphy for the ACLU Action team
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    I will be contacting Representative Boehner and Senator Portman to get the wheels rolling to crush this bullshit before it even starts.
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