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    All BS aside, how much money are you actually able to spend on your perfect HD weapon? You're bringing in so many variables into the equation on what might happen, who might shoot it, etc. that's it's almost impossible to determine the best course of action.

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    gfanikf, I just went through a very similar analysis... I'm even a fellow southpaw. I'm also a total newb, so my advice is not the most valuable on the thread.

    That said, the two most important things to add, IMHO, are a light and an Aimpoint.

    The speed difference for me, as a newb, between using the Aimpoint and the irons at close range (under 25 yds) is very substantial, even with good lighting. And I can see the Aimpoint dot perfectly in low light. Picking up the irons in the dark is pretty much impossible for me. I looked into night sights, but they kinda suck compared to a red dot.

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    BCM CQB MOD 0 11.5 SBR- $1025 from G&R Tactical
    Tax Stamp- $200
    Surefire Mini Suppressor- $1300
    Tax Stamp- $200
    Wait time for paperwork from BATF- 6 months or more
    Total- $2750

    You could buy a good 16" carbine for about the same price as the BCM SBR and spend another $1k on an RDS, magazines, ammo, weapon light and sling and have a good house defense rifle at hand almost immediately.

    It's also important to remember that good tactics and planning comes before gear. While an SBR with a suppressor may be the best choice for an HD carbine, it doesn't trump planning & tactics. It may be impractical to hole up in your room due to the location of your daughter's room, but that doesn't mean you cannot hole up in her room. It's usually better to plan your tactics around a safe room than it is to go looking for the bad guys alone and without professional room clearing training.

    If you experience a break in, it's better to have an unsuppressed 16" carbine now with the risk of minor hearing loss, than to be without anything at all for 6 months or more. Get the 16" carbine first and get it set up with an RDS some mags and ammo and get some training. Once you have that in place, you can set things in motion for the suppressed SBR
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    This is a home D gun. Anyone who suggests any different is gay.

    End of thread.

    If that's a 300 Blackout Im onboard.

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    Gandrtactical.com Daniel Defense plus Aimpoint Pro would be a good start. Then, shoot the gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightvisionary View Post
    If that's a 300 Blackout Im onboard.
    Not funny.

    Actually though... if you're snorting the 300 USELESS snow flake.. this wouldn't be a bad layout.
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    I'd go 11.5 SBR. Apparently that provides the best compromise between barrel length and dwell time.

    If suppressors were legal here, I'd put one on just on general principles. I would especially want a suppressor if it was a home defense rifle (although my rifles don't play any significant role in my home defense planning). Having said that, hearing protection in a home defense scenario, assuming we're not talking about frequent, protracted firefights, is overblown if you're worried about hearing damage. If you're worried about being overly disoriented by the noise, that's different.

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    Thanks everyone for the excellent replies everyone. I plan on responding in detail, but I'm currently traveling for the holiday. One thing is that I can't really afford to just grab a Colt 6920 at once...I'd love to honestly, hence my thought about piecemeal purchases and PSA has some really nice upper deals (and lower packages) going on.

    I guess as a quick follow up where does PSA usually rank when compared to Colt, DD, etc? I know they are generally well regarded and the barrels are made by FN. One plus with PSA is that it would make getting an optic earlier.

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    if you can't afford a rifle for 1200 bucks, then all the questions about SBR's an cans are not applicable to your HD setup. And your jumping way ahead of what you really need to be looking at since your budget is below $1000.

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    Re: Building an AR For Home Defense(tech branch load of questions)

    Quote Originally Posted by Seagunner View Post
    if you can't afford a rifle for 1200 bucks, then all the questions about SBR's an cans are not applicable to your HD setup. And your jumping way ahead of what you really need to be looking at since your budget is below $1000.
    Well its long term planning to an extent. I can't do it all at once, but I can over time.

    It is possible that I can swing a 6920 if I sell some guns. I guess I just want to know what makes Colt/DD/LMT superior vs PSA. Not saying it isn't just trying to learn more. It makes it easier to part with guns to fund it.

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