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Ok, I gotta make a decision and call one of these guys.
BCM middy will be softer shooting, which the wife will like. What I'm not sure about is how these will compare in balance and weight.
The carbine MOE hand guard is 6.85 oz. (I don't know what to add for the delta ring/handguard cap for the MOE, or the FSB, but I'm guessing at least an additional 3oz. right?)
The 11 inch Noveske NSR is 6.7 oz. + the proprietary barrel nut which is 3.1 oz.
I'm guessing those two will actually be pretty close when added up?
Is there really much difference in weight between a middy and carbine, and does it marginalize the improvement in recoil?
The Colt has a the MOE Carbine stock, the BCM has the Vltor IMOD stock, which will be heavier, HOWEVER, I've read a lot of comments on here stating that the overall weight is less of a concern than balance, and that a heavier stock often "lightens" the front end, which is better for smaller, weaker shooters.
Any thoughts or experience on how these two would balance and how the weight will end up for a woman?
I know I can't really go wrong with either, but I like to work it out as a learning process if nothing else.
With all the quality options in the AR world these days, it really comes down to preference (presuming you stick with quality manufacturers).
The one thing that I have found has spoiled me is the Noveske NSR handguards. While handguards can be very much a matter of personal taste, the slim profile and light weight are a godsend. All current and future AR's of mine have and will have NSR's.
I would love to see a .308/7.62 version of the NSR.
+1 for the Colt. I love my SBR Colt M4 LE 6921 they make great rifles.
Last edited by jaybirdritenour2; 07-06-13 at 00:21.
You also gotta look at what you'll want to do with the gun in the future.
With the colt a heavier buffer could help with felt recoil and the carbine gas (naturally over gassed) eats about any ammo you feed it. If you ever wanted to add a light a scout mount and surefire scout light is a great combo on the moe. Can't beat $10 for a mount. Plus you have the benefit of a factory built colt.
The other is built from mostly quality parts. The benefit of this rifle is the NSR rail. If you NEED free-float then this would be the way to go. The mid gas length is also a plus in my book if soft recoil is what you are after. But be careful when playing with buffers and weaker ammo. Adding a light can be as simple as adding a x300 in front of the front sight right at the 12 o'clock position.
Truth be told, I can't really think of a reason the wife (or myself really) would NEED a free float rail. I have just wanted a BCM middy for a while, and the stock and rail combo are hard to pass up.
For her, a factory colt with MOE furniture is probably a perfectly reliably, shootable, simple, light and well balanced carbine.
I've shot and handled several friends 6920's, but I have no concept of the weight and balance of the BCM 16" middy with that NSR rail and Imod stock.
Heart says the BCM, head says the Colt. Ha!
As always, thanks for the input everyone.
You wont go wrong either way. I say Colt ,but BCM makes great stuff.
Last edited by jaybirdritenour2; 07-06-13 at 17:00.
Our experience: Females don't like the weight forward aspect as much. Depending on barrel, the middy will have a more forward CG. Noticeably, even if the weight difference is nominal.
Likewise, gals (and many guys) seem to like the feel of MOE over many rails. Especially quad rails, etc.
Just depends on who is it primarily for, just know the gals tend to be more sensitive/picky about forward weight. For my daughter, I'm thinking LW 14.5 barrel with pinned hider, carbine action, MOE or super light rail.
My girlfriend calls my Daniel Defense M4V1 LW her rifle, she likes it so much. That gun feels like a feather in the front end. My Colt 6920 she did not like so much (had that 7" troy quad rail), as the DD is noticably lighter in the front end than the Colt and you can get your arm out farther on rail.
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