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    I googled the HK hook to see what it is like. I think it is the same as the attachment for a Cetme sling. I can see how it could come loose if in a bind. Your'e right about checking equipment before and maybe during use.
    My read is that most of the HK hook reports are not about HK hooks at all, they are copies with widely varying quality.

    When I was young and poor (and in better shape) I hunted with a 91A3 with factory sling. Not just occasionally, but anytime I could.... "Still" hunting 10-15 days a year in the mountains (no stands). I never once had it unhook. My main complaint was that it was noisy at times.

    I use QDs now that my hk days are over, but if they were not an option would seek out hooks from some old g3 slings


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    Quote Originally Posted by KrampusArms View Post
    Oh, I don't mind scratches. The rifle hit receiver extension/stock first. The weakest area.

    I don't think anything is messed up. I looked it over, seems fine. It just sounded UGLY. It was worse than nails on a chalkboard. The "cringe" lasted a long time, and than stayed with me throughout the evening.
    Good grief, you make it sound like your first born just faceplanted in a cactus bed or something. These guns handle the rigors of war, being beaten on, smashed into things, and being used as tools, all of which they have proven to handle.

    Guess this is the reason I just look at the AR as a tool, and not something to accessorize and make look pretty.

    FYI there are much more secure ways to sling up a gun without a QD attachment.

    5 pages of reading and for some reason all I've got from this thread was omg qd questionable.... then it turns out it wasn't even the qd's fault.
    Last edited by discreet; 07-28-13 at 02:04.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    Good grief, you make it sound like your first born just faceplanted in a cactus bed or something. These guns handle the rigors of war, being beaten on, smashed into things, and being used as tools, all of which they have proven to handle.

    Guess this is the reason I just look at the AR as a tool, and not something to accessorize and make look pretty.

    FYI there are much more secure ways to sling up a gun without a QD attachment.

    5 pages of reading and for some reason all I've got from this thread was omg qd questionable.... then it turns out it wasn't even the qd's fault.
    Perhaps I'm being a baby, yes I agree. The only thing I can give everybody is this:

    I spent a lot of money on my rifle, and it was not a comforting sight to see it hit the ground. And yes, it fell a grand total of maybe 4 feet and then bounced. Not from a helicopter. I understand I was a bit too animated about my feelings towards a nearly 2000 dollar piece of equipment crashing on the ground.

    I ****ing skrimped and saved for the damn weapon. Much time, effort, research, and saving went into it. However, I dont mind your comments, or anyone elses. I appreciate it sincerely. Im in need of additional perspective. I mean that honestly.

    And yes, it wasnt the QD devices fault. It was mine. I admitted it publicly. I made a big ass stink over my own damn mis information.

    And, the manufacturer GG&G made it right. They could have said screw off, not our fault, but they didnt. Which concludes this thread unless people have further discussion or commentary.

    Update 7-29-13

    Recieved my exchange which GG&G got to me today. I like this better so far. Thank you GG&G!

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    Clay....Bill Clay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrampusArms View Post
    Perhaps I'm being a baby, yes I agree. The only thing I can give everybody is this:

    I spent a lot of money on my rifle, and it was not a comforting sight to see it hit the ground. And yes, it fell a grand total of maybe 4 feet and then bounced. Not from a helicopter. I understand I was a bit too animated about my feelings towards a nearly 2000 dollar piece of equipment crashing on the ground.

    I ****ing skrimped and saved for the damn weapon. Much time, effort, research, and saving went into it. However, I dont mind your comments, or anyone elses. I appreciate it sincerely. Im in need of additional perspective. I mean that honestly.

    And yes, it wasnt the QD devices fault. It was mine. I admitted it publicly. I made a big ass stink over my own damn mis information.

    And, the manufacturer GG&G made it right. They could have said screw off, not our fault, but they didnt. Which concludes this thread unless people have further discussion or commentary.

    Update 7-29-13

    Recieved my exchange which GG&G got to me today. I like this better so far. Thank you GG&G!

    Attachment 17612
    Safety is off, if the bolt is not locked back......

    That said who cares if it fell? Im glad GGG took care of you their CS is great!

    You should toss it down the driveway to make yourself feel better :P
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    At a carbine course last week, I noted that the sewn-in QD swivel on my VCAS sling looked and felt like it engaged the Noveske socket on my NSR, but didn't. I caught the rifle before it hit the dirt. It did subsequently engage solidly after I pushed it down hard.

    Some swivels fit the depth of some sockets better than others, apparently.
    This. Generally when or if a QD connector fails, it is because of operator error.

    For the record, not all QD swivels are the same quality. For me, I only use BFG and Colt's QD's.

    I have probably logged more training hours with QD's on a sling than most people (BFG Vickers sling with QD's sewn in) and have YET to have a failure OR witness a failure of a BFG QD swivel.

    Like all things, buy quality and properly install the item.


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    The QD's need a little wipe down and lube now and then. Those ball bearings will eventually dry up and lock up if not maintained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrampusArms View Post
    I can see how that would have failed, I am astonished you will continue to use it.

    I have never had a QD let go on me. That said I use quality parts and intelligent designs. Most of my QD have to be wiggled out to remove them.

    Get a Noveske end plate with the QD socket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    I can see how that would have failed, I am astonished you will continue to use it.

    I have never had a QD let go on me. That said I use quality parts and intelligent designs. Most of my QD have to be wiggled out to remove them.

    Get a Noveske end plate with the QD socket.
    Thats no a QD end plate. That is ggg's multi one, for HK clips and standard sling mounting through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Sorry reading comprehension fail. Makes more sense as you describe it, seemed a terrible Idea as a QD socket, looking closer now I can see why it wouldn't even work for a QD.

    My bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    Sorry reading comprehension fail. Makes more sense as you describe it, seemed a terrible Idea as a QD socket, looking closer now I can see why it wouldn't even work for a QD.

    My bad
    Yes, GG&G exchanged it for a completely different endplate. All they wanted was the 5 dollar shipping. Considering there was nothing wrong with the QD endplate I purchased, they were awesome about it.

    Talking with their customer service representative, I could tell they are top notch guys. Very very good CS.

    Unrelated, but God help you if you ever have a problem with a sony product. They have the WORST CS I have ever experienced. Prepare to sacrifice a virgin on an altar, if you want them to help you.
    Clay....Bill Clay.

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