Just too much sensitivity. Sign of the times I think (age/generational --- notwithstanding really). Thick skin is becoming less prevalent.
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Just too much sensitivity. Sign of the times I think (age/generational --- notwithstanding really). Thick skin is becoming less prevalent.
Last edited by Swag; 07-08-13 at 20:10.
Never sit at the bargaining table with an empty stomach.
Boy, they sure do things differently in Montana, don't they??
What I liked about this site when I first signed on, was the fact folks told me what was on their mind. Felt like talking to the grumpy ol' former service members my dad had as friends while I was growing up. Sure, I had to wrassle with a few of you in as I tried to fit in, but it felt like home.
I don't have a Colt. I built a PSA carbine from a kit just to see if I could apply what I'd learned. Turns out I could. After ironing out a couple of teething problems, it runs great. Personally, I don't care if anyone else likes my rifles. I'll recommend PSA but it don't matter if anyone listens. Why do usually recommend a Colt 6920 first? Because they are the easiest Colt to find, the most likely brand to work right out of the box and comes in the simplest, cheapest furniture possible.
The one statement guys make that causes me to cringe- "I ain't building it to go to war". If that's the case, don't bother. Being rugged enough to go to war is thee standard. Anything less falls short. Although I may just be out plinkin' or dirt clod bustin', I wanna shoot, not clear malfunctions on a carbine that's not up to snuff
Last edited by MistWolf; 07-08-13 at 22:19.
INSIDE PLAN OF BOX
- ROAD-RUNNER LIFTS GLASS OF WATER- PULLING UP MATCH
- MATCH SCRATCHES ON MATCH-BOX
- MATCH LIGHTS FUSE TO TNT
- BOOM!
- HA-HA!!
-WILE E. COYOTE, AUTHOR OF "EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW IN LIFE, I LEARNED FROM GOLDBERG & MURPHY"
I am American
To steer this thread back on course, I think JC was onto something when he addressed the site as being a valuable resource. Perhaps there should be a poll to ask what rifles everyone has and whether or not they've had any issues with them. The results should speak for themselves. Doesn't appear that anything bad could come out of knowing the truth vs. speculation on how reliable this or that manufacturer is likely to be.
Since many here own more than one rifle, there would have to be a way to take into account for that fact as they might be from different manufacturer's. The results could be posted and referred to in the future so we don't end wasting so much time in disagreement about the subject. We have more important matters to discuss.
I work part time at a local gun shop. Unfortunately I learned quickly that most don't want to be confused with facts. Many will pick one over another simply by looks or how it feels or if it's lighter or heavier than another.
Back in late fall of '12 my LGS opened and the wife and I stopped in for a visit to see what was in there. They had a nice Colt M4 on the wall with Magpul toys already on it. I liked it a lot, turned to the wife and stated that I would pay the extra $$ to get a Colt over other brands and this was before I came here. Guess what, just before the fiasco in CT she bought it for me and then I joined this forum. I can't say I have shot any other ARs prior to this and I don't care either. I feel that I own a quality rifle and am very glad that she didn't have an issue with the extra $$ for it. Then again, she has no problem paying for quality.
As for other ARs, hey, if you're happy with them, more power to you. I'm happy to know my rifle is capable of "going to war".
I can tell you I felt ripped off when I paid $800 for a DPMS and could have had a Colt or BCM for a few hundred more. Buyers remorse big time when I read the stickys on here.
Yet, it didn't take long to realize on my own that the Panther was junk, regardless of what the gun shop owner told me. Malfunctions, over gassed, and when the receiver extension came loose for the first time I was done.
There's a reason I spend most of my time here, most members DO hold a higher standard and try their best to keep it that way.
I'd say if you want to recommend junk, go do it somewhere else. Because when that person takes that said junk out of the gun cabinet to USE it and it starts falling apart..... They are gonna feel ripped off too. Especially if its in a situation their life depends on it.
Good thread - two things jump to mind that turn people off about this or any other Internet gun forum;
1) people respond in a smartass fashion hiding behind a screen name; saying things that would get them tuned up physically if they were to say the same things face to face - so called 'keyboard courage ' ( this is a very dangerous tactic as many people such as myself have very long memories )
2) some people portray themselves to be far more knowledgable than they really are ; Internet firearms forum skills don't translate to real firearms skills in the real world. When the meth head is kicking in the back door he won't care if you are a world class internet keyboard commando
Those are two things that hurt this or any other forum; fortunately M4C is well moderated compared to many/most others - that is to the benefit of anyone trying to get real valuable knowledge about the M4 and it's use
Be safe
LAV
You folks are spot on.
I never really understood the attacking certain weapons. It goes without saying that service grade weapons are superior for their intended use than hobby weapons. Still I can’t seek attacking each other over purchase selections. This is an outstanding educational site and place to exchange views on what works and doesn’t work. Pay attention and learn or not - it’s up to you.
Sure I buy the best gear I can afford and I research and test it all thoroughly. But to me a weapon is just a tool. I normally don’t get attached to them. My primary and most dangerous weapon is my mind. Situational awareness and the ability to make things work in your favor is far more important to me.
Last edited by Serlo II; 07-09-13 at 21:29.
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