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    Re: KAC SR-15 E3

    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Regarding the KAC trigger, no first hand experience or even first hand knowledge. That info was obtained searching M4C. A previous poster mentioned it is no longer an issue, but it still creates some doubt in my mind.
    Can you link to where you found others saying that they break? Was it just one account of it occurring or a wide spread issue? This thread is the first I've heard of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Can you link to where you found others saying that they break? Was it just one account of it occurring or a wide spread issue? This thread is the first I've heard of it.
    I've heard of some issues in the past, but it did not seem to be as widespread as lets say the rra triggers. The new models are NIB coated for extra reliability so i do not think its an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Can you link to where you found others saying that they break? Was it just one account of it occurring or a wide spread issue? This thread is the first I've heard of it.
    Today is my didactics day, we're getting out soon and I have to go immediately back to the ED so without doing a thorough search:

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=90668

    Sinister who is an SME briefly discussed required maintenance of the KAC vs. a Giessele or mil spec trigger.

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    I think many were concerned about the KAC trigger because they used to be adjustable. Idea was that they didn't want something that can be adjusted on the AR. Right or wrong (I know the military use of the KAC) that's the most common reason I heard. However, the kac triggers coming on sr-15s are no longer adjustable.
    All my KAC have geiselle triggers (with exception of a lower purchased this year) because I prefer the Geiselle trigger. But I've always been able to pull the KAC trigger and sell it and break even or pocketing a bit of $$ even after buying the geiselle.

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    Re: KAC SR-15 E3

    Quote Originally Posted by hjmpanzr View Post
    I think many were concerned about the KAC trigger because they used to be adjustable. Idea was that they didn't want something that can be adjusted on the AR. Right or wrong (I know the military use of the KAC) that's the most common reason I heard. However, the kac triggers coming on sr-15s are no longer adjustable.
    All my KAC have geiselle triggers (with exception of a lower purchased this year) because I prefer the Geiselle trigger. But I've always been able to pull the KAC trigger and sell it and break even or pocketing a bit of $$ even after buying the geiselle.
    My experience as well. If you're really that worried about it, you can sell the new KAC trigger for about the same cost as a new Geissele. The triggers in the SR15 have always been non-adjustable. The match trigger as issued on the Mk 11 and M110 may have been the adjustable version, leading to some of the issues seen in the field. However, I've got 5-6k rounds on a 2008 SR15 lower with the original trigger. It's never had a single issue and has actually improved in feel over time. It was very good right out of the box and has smoothed out a bit over time. Why obsess over it? If you put that much faith in other people's experiences over your own, just sell it new and swap it out. Personally, I don't see the point, especially with the improved version coming in the current Mod1, but to each his own. Instead of obsessing over every little detail, find someone that owns one and shoot it. You'll either feel like you have to have one or you'll think it's no different than any other AR. Most people that own them will tell you there is inherent value in the design, manifested in how it actually performs. Hence, my "go shoot one" advice.

    As far as the cost comparisons, it's been done a hundred times. Math doesn't lie and the SR15 is a good value when you compare apples to apples. You can take a BCM or DD rifle, add the comparable parts and you will end up even or within 100-$200 of an SR15. That's well within the margin of dealer pricing variations of $1900-$2100 for the Mod1. Especially if you sell off the SOPMOD or KAC trigger and pocket a little cash.

    ETA: it has been said before that the SR15 really is more than the sum of its parts. This is an opinion I share as well. The ONLY reason not to buy one if you are considering it, is if a) you only shoot the cheapest ammo you can get your hands on, or b) you have a legitimate need for 100% parts commonality, meaning you have a departmental or branch requirement for standard parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    This goes a long way towards explaining your enviable collection!
    Thanks for the compliment..The Gun Gallery is definitely the enabler to my KAC addiction..also helps that KAC is in my backyard and I sometimes see and shoot with some of the KAC guys at local matches.

    Sucks that KevinB is in Va now but, I still have Casey to bug when I want a KAC fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbo723 View Post
    Thanks for the compliment..The Gun Gallery is definitely the enabler to my KAC addiction..also helps that KAC is in my backyard and I sometimes see and shoot with some of the KAC guys at local matches.

    Sucks that KevinB is in Va now but, I still have Casey to bug when I want a KAC fix
    I remember I called them back in may to check if they had DDs & SCAR 17s before I bought mine, at first they didnt want to quote a price over the phone but i explained i lived in south Florida and wouldnt be driving up, then they told me 2k for a DD & 3,600 for a SCAR 16s. Needless to say I was not impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    I remember I called them back in may to check if they had DDs & SCAR 17s before I bought mine, at first they didnt want to quote a price over the phone but i explained i lived in south Florida and wouldnt be driving up, then they told me 2k for a DD & 3,600 for a SCAR 16s. Needless to say I was not impressed.
    I'll try and check on that cause I know they didn't raise any of their prices unless the distributors they use raised it on them. Do you remember who you spoke with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbo723 View Post
    I'll try and check on that cause I know they didn't raise any of their prices unless the distributors they use raised it on them. Do you remember who you spoke with?
    I can't remember, whoever it was didn't want to discuss prices on the phone, then put me on hold asked someone else and gave prices. No biggie, I found what I wanted.

    On a side note, I was on the fence yesterday between the SR-15 mod 1 & a DDM4V5, but went with the DD. Hard decision but the DD was a great deal, so it was very difficult to turn down... I'll probably get a V7 in the near future as well, maybe a SR-15 down the road...

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    I know a lot of the dealers in Jax won't quote prices over the phone because people will go back and forth calling Gun Gallery and Shooters without ever setting foot in the store.
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