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    Quote Originally Posted by GH41 View Post
    "Where do you live? Just wondering..

    Hilton Head. For what it is worth we probably have as much crime per capi ta as anywhere in the country. I still say a gun in the trunk is a ****ed up plan if you feel threatened! GH
    So, do you have a solution or suggestion or just here to shit in the thread? Obviously you KNOW Florida law, so...
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    Re: Best way to store an AR in the trunk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger89 View Post
    Ignoring my opinion on how horribly written that statute is, I would say figuring out how the state defines "securely encased" would be a good start. Here in Wisconsin, a firearm is considered "securely encased" as long as it is enclosed in any kind of case and unloaded. The "case" does not need to be locked and can be something as simple as a gun sock or zippered soft case. Unloaded is defined as not having any ammunition in the firearm itself, but does not preclude storing ammunition in the case with the firearm, or storing loaded magazines in the case with the firearm, as long as their is not a loaded mag in the gun. If Florida law is similar to Wisconsin law in that aspect, I'd say your best bet would be keeping the rifle and a handful of loaded mags in a case that is easily accessible (i.e. not locked). Whether you keep said case in the trunk or inside the passenger compartment shouldn't matter at that point.
    The law has changed, as long as the firearm is unloaded, you don't need a case.

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    Re: Best way to store an AR in the trunk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger89 View Post
    Ignoring my opinion on how horribly written that statute is, I would say figuring out how the state defines "securely encased" would be a good start. Here in Wisconsin, a firearm is considered "securely encased" as long as it is enclosed in any kind of case and unloaded. The "case" does not need to be locked and can be something as simple as a gun sock or zippered soft case. Unloaded is defined as not having any ammunition in the firearm itself, but does not preclude storing ammunition in the case with the firearm, or storing loaded magazines in the case with the firearm, as long as their is not a loaded mag in the gun. If Florida law is similar to Wisconsin law in that aspect, I'd say your best bet would be keeping the rifle and a handful of loaded mags in a case that is easily accessible (i.e. not locked). Whether you keep said case in the trunk or inside the passenger compartment shouldn't matter at that point.
    Not to get side tracked but, Badger, you are aware we (WI) don't have to have long guns cased for transport anymore, right? They just have to be unloaded. This was effective Nov 1 2011, when our CCW went into effect.

    ETA: Someone beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911-A1 View Post
    Just for giggles, consider a Krinkov-style AK. Mine fits in a small backpack with the stock folded.

    That's one of the drawbacks of the AR system. It doesn't get that small without rendering it inop.
    This is what i was about to suggest... even a side folding or underfolding nonNFA AK.

    Everyone knows what the AK brings


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    The idea of leaving a firearm in a motor vehicle makes me a little green around the gills, unless the owner is willing to invest in a Truck Vault or similar purpose built container. Cars get stolen, cars get broken into, guns wind up on the street...
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    Quote Originally Posted by midSCarolina View Post
    This is what i was about to suggest... even a side folding or underfolding nonNFA AK.

    Everyone knows what the AK brings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    A notorious and infamous reputation as being used by commies, terrorists, and all other enemies of the US.
    And that makes it a poor choice because... Everyone knows what an AK is so its presence would definitely be known and a few guys with hi points and 38s might not want to stick around to see what happens. And your goal should be to avoid having to shoot it out right? In my experience most of these guys are just trying to intimidate you and will stand down when met with the threat of force.
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    Some of you guys way over think this. What would you rather have? A rifle with some assembly required or no rifle at all? I lived in California a good many years where getting a permit to carry concealed is nearly impossible and are pretty strict as to what constitutes a loaded firearm. A handgun in a case that still needed a mag inserted was better than going unarmed and beat going to jail and losing the pistol if searched. Being searched was a very real possibility. I've been searched at least twice because the officer saw a pair of ear muffs in my car. A firearm carried within the limits of the law is better than being unarmed or being arrested.

    As far as smash & grab goes, are you telling me you carry nothing of value in your vehicle? Nothing at all? Why is anyone worried about leaving a rifle inside the vehicle all the time? Is your EDC handgun left in the car all the time? Or do you take it into the house when you get home? When I carry a rifle with me, I take it inside with me. It's not that difficult.

    Eurodriver, find out what constitutes a loaded rifle. In Utah, an unloaded weapon means it requires two actions to fire, such as racking the slide and pulling the trigger (deactivating the safety, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't count). Loading the mag, racking the slide and pulling the trigger is three, for example. If it's legal, put the rifle in a backpack, maybe something like a Sneaky Bag, along with a loaded mag and keep it in the passenger compartment with you. If there is trouble, unzip the bag, retrieve the rifle and load it. Practice this to be sure you can pull it off. If it doesn't work, find another solution. Keep it simple. When you get home, or when appropriate, take the rifle out of the vehicle for safe keeping.

    Of course, keeping yourself and your family safe will require more than simply keeping a rifle and handgun with you. Learn to look for trouble and try to always have an exit plan. That's one reason I never drive too close to the vehicle ahead and keep well back when coming to a stop. I also keep my car positioned so that the lane to my left and right stays clear whenever possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    Some of you guys way over think this. What would you rather have? A rifle with some assembly required or no rifle at all? I lived in California a good many years where getting a permit to carry concealed is nearly impossible and are pretty strict as to what constitutes a loaded firearm. A handgun in a case that still needed a mag inserted was better than going unarmed and beat going to jail and losing the pistol if searched. Being searched was a very real possibility. I've been searched at least twice because the officer saw a pair of ear muffs in my car. A firearm carried within the limits of the law is better than being unarmed or being arrested.

    As far as smash & grab goes, are you telling me you carry nothing of value in your vehicle? Nothing at all? Why is anyone worried about leaving a rifle inside the vehicle all the time? Is your EDC handgun left in the car all the time? Or do you take it into the house when you get home? When I carry a rifle with me, I take it inside with me. It's not that difficult.

    Eurodriver, find out what constitutes a loaded rifle. In Utah, an unloaded weapon means it requires two actions to fire, such as racking the slide and pulling the trigger (deactivating the safety, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't count). Loading the mag, racking the slide and pulling the trigger is three, for example. If it's legal, put the rifle in a backpack, maybe something like a Sneaky Bag, along with a loaded mag and keep it in the passenger compartment with you. If there is trouble, unzip the bag, retrieve the rifle and load it. Practice this to be sure you can pull it off. If it doesn't work, find another solution. Keep it simple.

    Of course, keeping yourself and your family safe will require more than simply keeping a rifle and handgun with you. Learn to look for trouble and try to always have an exit plan. That's one reason I never drive too close to the vehicle ahead and keep well back when coming to a stop. I also keep my car positioned so that the lane to my left and right stays clear whenever possible
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    Just get couple 33rd mags for glock 26. If things start to go south just pop in 33-rounder fun stick. A lot easier drivin with weapon too(I'd imagine), and can stay in safty of car. Still keep the rifle in the trunk if ya want, the 33rds of HP will give you time to walk(not run) to trunk.. I seem to remember a joke about 2 bulls that could be applied.
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