First be glad you are renting. You retain the "option" of bailing. I know that probably sounds absurd to you, but be glad you have options. If you owned your home you'd really be limited.
Your obvious problem is despite any intentions you are not there to hold the fort because you work and leave your home, property and family vulnerable to any "bad intentions" during times when chances of "getting away with it" are highest.
Does not sound like you are in a situation where you can rely and any neighbors to watch out for your family and property even if you did work during the day. So pretty much not only are you on your own completely, you aren't even home when it matters the most.
Now just read everything I wrote several more times before you even contemplate doing ANYTHING. When retaliation comes, and it sounds like you have the kind of shitbag neighbors who will retaliate over anything, you probably will not be home when it happens. That means unless you have a family member willing to come stand post, your wife will be the one to deal with it by herself.
Let me also save you some time. Don't bother talking to them at all. Anyone with the decency to respect your requests of consideration wouldn't be causing you these kinds of problems to begin with. Best case scenario is they will say "Sorry brah...no problems" and then completely ignore you and continue on as before but now they know who the "complainer" is if you decide to up the ante. At worst you will get the standard "**** you men, this is my house I do what I want."
If you call the cops, it may or may not help fix things. Loud obnoxious assholes who bother their neighbors are so common that usually the police don't even want to get bothered. Best case scenario is you will have a local noise ordnance that the police are willing to actively enforce. This will cause one of many things to happen...
1. They stop acting like assholes (unlikely)
2. They start ****ing with your shit to get even (most likely)
3. They get tired of dealing with it and move (this is your goal)
One advantage you have RIGHT NOW is they are probably annoying everyone in proximity to their home. That means RIGHT NOW they don't know you are calling the police, they don't know you are taking any other actions you may deem necessary.
But before you do ANYTHING, consider these kinds of neighbors have little to lose. They can be hard to arrest for specific things and they've probably been in jail before. You on the other hand have quite a bit at risk.
But even if you do NOTHING they may decide to **** with you because they don't like how you look. They may decide to **** with your family because they think they can get away with it. And they may decide to rob your shed or home because you have nice things.
I have had a series of bad neighbors in a rental property next to me. Unfortunately I own my house so I can't just rent elsewhere. That means I had to make life so uncomfortable for them that it was easier for them to rent elsewhere and I had to be way more trouble than I was worth in terms of them ****ing with me.
It can be difficult to navigate that fine line between sending them a clear message of "willing to indulge bad intentions" and breaking the law with actual threats of violence that can land YOU in jail.
Sometimes cleaning an AR on the back bench makes them think "Jesus Christ that white boy has a rifle and doesn't seem happy with me, I'm gonna move" with others it makes them think "He's got a rifle I want to steal."
Random actions that say "We are tired of putting up with your shit" can have an impact but if you are the person engaging in those actions you are again putting yourself at risk. And no matter how random the actions may be, they can probably figure it out. It's probably not the first time they've dealt with neighbors who are sick of their shit.
And even if you manage to drive them off, that doesn't mean they won't come back one night a month later and **** with your shit while you are at work.
This is why most people simply close their curtains, buy noise cancelling headphones and pray nothing gets stolen or vandalized. Of course that means you are living at the mercy of the intentions of retards and have surrendered your desire to not put up with their bullshit.
Anyway, think hard before you do anything. Have a plan. Have a plan for when the plan goes wrong. Expect a response no matter what you do, regardless of how you choose to do it.
Your key problem is they are not afraid of you, afraid of what you might be capable of and as a result have no respect for you and are demonstrating that lack of respect or even basic consideration for a neighbor. You may or may not be capable of changing their perspective.
ETA: High wattage motion detector floodlights with lights covering ares of your property that you are worried about and / or brightly lighting up areas of their property where they cause problems. I was able to keep some loud and obnoxious neighbors inside with a brightly lit floodlight pointed at their front porch that came on every time they came out at night to make ****ing noise.
A basic camera security system could also be valuable so it isn't just "your word against theirs" if and when you have a problem.
ETAII: Two and a half months you should be able to pull off by projecting a generally negative and aggressive posture without really saying or doing anything. Wait till you deal with shit like this for an entire year.
Last edited by SteyrAUG; 07-17-13 at 00:23.
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). 2 and a half months is a long time on a night to night basis, good luck brother.
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